I swear to god, if the whining about other posters keeps up, I am going to ask Achronos to allow us ninja to put people on member's mute lists and the member can't remove a ninja-added mute.
If you don't like another member's posts, freaking click the damned button. It doesn't make you a pussy to mute someone, it makes you an idiot that you're refusing to use a tool that works because you THINK that you're tough enough that you "don't need it". If you whine about another user's "quality" then you clearly aren't [u]that[/u] tough.
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I agree, people should be able to choose what they want in their social media, or who they don't want.
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Recon, stahp, you're scaring the children :''((
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damn, I never thought I would see it get to this point with you Recon, you have always seemed the more level headed moderator (not that you are particularly angry now). At first I did not like the mute feature, but I have found instances to use it and I must say it is nice. That being said, I think the main problem with the mute feature is that users find it to much of a bother to deal with. Then on top of it, the users that you have muted are never truly "muted" you can still view their threads by clicking the hidden post option. I think the mute feature was a good idea, but it is to much an annoyance for members to use. That is just my input.
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Fair enough. And if I came across as angry? Not really. More than anything I am puzzled by how someone can consider typing out multiple posts and threads about "how ______ is a shitposter" is going to give them (or anyone) a better result than simply clicking a button (over what is clearly enough of an annoyance to inspire action and outrage). I hear "not muting people is all about maturity, self-control, tolerance, and the ability to handle all that the Internet is capable of" and yet... whining. Why whine? Especially if you're an Internet Superman? I don't get it. So puzzled. And a little exhasperated. Not even to the point of frustration, certainly not anger. But definitely puzzlement.
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No I agree, I think the whining threads are getting out of hand, and I have muted a lot of the people who are creating them. The mute feature is definitely the tool for people to use when it comes to cleaning up what they call "shitposters". I honestly just want to see these forums return back to their amazing ways. This isn't the community that I joined.
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Edited by Recon Number 54: 6/13/2013 4:31:46 AMThe community changes, and it stays the same. It's really fascinating to watch and be a part of. We find our "fun" where we make it. Someone dislikes me and how/what I post? I ask that they please take me off of their radar. Don't let what I say/do aggravate you or otherwise spoil your time here. I'm not here to upset anyone, and if I do, I'd like them to be able to see and enjoy the other parts of this site that don't enrage them (especially if it's "me being me"). I want to be here, respect that they do too, and if they have the ability to remove a source of annoyance (me), then if I could (remove myself from their view while still being here) I would eagerly do it myself. Since I can't, they can, they could, and they (IMO) should. Click and I am gone as if I left town and never came back. That makes them feel better? Then it makes me feel better too! I can't "mute me" for someone else. I wish that I could. I come here to enjoy myself and assume others do the same. If two people have different ideas of "what's enjoyable" and are irreconcilable with those differences, they both are entitled to still have an experience here that suits their needs.
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Edited by Nick Saban: 6/13/2013 4:33:13 AMDon't worry Recon, I like you and what you post. So I won't mute you. I realize why the moderators were chosen now. Some with the "new" rules, I think have shown there true colors, but for the most part you guys have shown why you were chosen by rising above all the noise
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Recon, while your at it, can you ask if you can add a particular person to everyone's mute list?
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That's not how my (still brewing) idea works. You're suggesting a global mute. And that already exists. Enough members say "I really don't want to see what this individual has to say" and it's a matter of Vox Populi. They're muted for everyone. It's not meant as a punishment for the muted member, it's meant as a reprieve and a collective break for everyone else. The muted member can either view it as a suggestion from the masses, or ignore it, call those folks morons, thin-skinned, whatever and continue with their standard modus operandi. Einstein defined insanity as "doing the same thing over and over again, but expecting different results". If being given the collective "cold-shoulder" or "straight to voicemail" by a community is insufficient to tell someone that they should try a different approach if they want a different outcome? I don't think that anything is going to give them a reason to alter their world-view or methodology.
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Edited by M37h3w3: 6/13/2013 3:23:24 AMWhat about those who bypass bans or global mutes?
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Einstein said it better than I. It's a clash between someone's freedom to act as they see fit (on the Internet, with all that entails) and (IMO) a matter of private property. Someone walks up to your door and knocks. You answer, you're having a party and all of your friends and neighbors are invited. You don't recognize the person, but they seem pleasant enough, are smiling and when you ask them "are you here for the party?" they answer with an affirmative. You invite and allow them in. The more the merrier. However, the evening goes on and this one person (who you initially welcomed into your home) is getting louder and louder, insulting and offending other guests, even doing things that you don't appreciate or accept in your house (could be anything, your house your rules). As the host, you approach the person and you (still with a smile) ask them "would you mind easing up a bit, this is a friendly get together and we're all just trying to relax and have a fun evening?" Now they might agree, calm down, and the party resumes. But what if they thinking that "you've offended them?" That "they have as much right to be here as anyone else, and they are going to do what they damned well want to do and you can go screw yourself"? What then? Well, as the home owner, as the master of your own domain, you (if you're still calm) politely ask them to leave. If they comply? All is well. But what if they refuse? Don't recognize you as the owner of the property? Well then, you have an individual that (based on where you live and the local statutes) is somewhere between an "unwanted guest" and a "trespasser". In the eyes of most people, you have the right to escort them out. In most cases, and for most people, if the individual doesn't leave at your request, the police are called in to escort the individual off of your property and explain to them that they are no longer welcome. So what if the person comes back? Makes more noise? Sneaks around back and comes through the kitchen door? It's now clearly past "unwanted guest" squarely into trespass, even into criminal trespass. And if they are there with a clear intent to cause disruption to you, your property and/or your guests? Depending on their methods, it could be seen as aggravated trespass. It's your property and you can decide who can and who can't stay there, for any reason, but even better if your reasons were "reasonable" and the intruder is there to not comply with the conditions of entry. Hell, at this point, depending on where you live, some proiperty owners can view such a person (who is willfully and repeatedly violating and ignoring your rights as a property owner) as a physical threat. In some locales, especially after being escorted off the premises, willfully returning is viewed as a clear and present danger to the property, the owner and any guests there. But fortunately, this is the Internet. So violence doesn't occur with just words. But the principle (private property, follow the conditions of entry = stay, refuse to follow them = asked to leave/ejected). Now, I wonder. In real life, would anyone who respects and values the rights and privileges of individuals expect them to forfeit those rights simply because an unwelcome and unwanted party chooses to be persistent? I don't think so. I'd suspect that (arguments over politics, violence, and other real world problems aside) than any sane person would say that the repeat trespasser is clearly "doing something they shouldn't", and in the real world, if they were that persistent, someone would get hurt. But this is the Internet, and what seem to be clear-cut parallels of personal determination and ownership of private property, even legal agreements... well, those are all just words. Not everyone is going to keep their word, or act online like they would like to think that they would act in real life. A pity really. Because many of the folks here, if they act like they do on the forums? I'd say that we're pretty representative of the real world, especially if you consider our demographic skew. But there are a few, who if they act in real life how they conduct themselves here? Whew. Oh well. Rambling. It was a good glass of bourbon this evening and a long day. Long and winding reply that probably didn't even answer your question satisfactorily. My apologies. My mind got fixed on the issue of respecting others and their freedoms and how even that has borders and places where personal freedom stops since you are then impinging on the rights of another.
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Muting is for the weak.
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I'd be up for that.
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You're a faggot.
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You know you're just mad because the site still sucks and you're all still incompetent with your lobotomies. You still contradict yourselves and do the same things you ban others for. You're a disgrace. Your bans are still worthless.
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I love how I get banned for two weeks for posting that vid about Ken, but you don't get banned for harassing a Ninja. Thanks a lot Recon.
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I insulted him, learn what harassment is. And I got banned for a cannabis thread before. Don't you know how to easily avoid them?
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Edited by Verbatim: 6/13/2013 1:53:41 AM
Started a new topic: Let's all laugh at Recon Number 54's idiocy(113 Replies))
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[quote]It doesn't make you a pussy to mute someone[/quote]Yes, it does. Saying this just makes me not want to use the feature even more. [i]Fuck. You.[/i] AND your shit opinion.
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[url]http://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning%E2%80%93Kruger_effect[/url]
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I can't believe I fully agree with Verbatim. Recon is the one whining like a baby here.
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I'm sorry if I ever came across that way Recon...
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I think he was making a joke...