originally posted in:Secular Sevens
[b]11. There is no hell[/b]
All the evidence. Ever.
so yeah.. I'm not in the mood to discuss this right now. Sorry.
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? Lack of evidence for something =/= evidence against something
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Well, let me put it this way: Until there is any solid evidence of hell, the only rational stance is to assume it's nonexistent. [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philosophical_burden_of_proof]Read this[/url] [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russell%27s_teapot]And enjoy this.[/url]
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The rational stance is to assume neither.
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No...did you read the article about th burden of proof? You're saying that it is the rational stance to assume that Odin might be out there...
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No, I'm saying that the rational stance is to not assume Odin's existence [u]or[/u] non-existence. Unless you have evidence for a position, don't adopt that position. It's irrational to believe something without evidence.
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I know, I've been around long enough to hear "burden of truth etc etc". However, your post [i]seemed[/i] to imply that there was active evidence against hell.
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Yeah, I should have phrased it better..
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It's an unsupported metaphysical construction. There's no reason to believe in Hell over, say, Hades, or even over Grim Fandango's depiction of the after-life.
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Edited by magicmagininja: 5/14/2013 9:28:23 PMIF THERE is no evidence, shut up until you bring some -blam!-
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Alright. Gee, what a great way to promote discussion.
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Sorry, but there really isn't much to discuss..
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I was kind of expecting more theists to discuss these 10 things. But whatever.
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Probably because most modern theists don't believe those ten points.
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Of course not, but I expected theists to perhaps believe in at least one. Maybe one theist believes in one point and another theist would believe in other. You seldom see a theist vs. theist discussion in S7s anymore, so I posted the article in hopes that I would get to see one again. But that didn't happen, oh well.
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Well I believe in one point - there will be many popes in hell.
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Sure, my comment was directed mainly towards snake and it was concerning the existance of hell. You've put together a quality post and I think it has great conversation potential with the right audience. I just don't happen to be in it.