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Here's the thing: most people don't care that homosexuals exist. I myself don't have anything against them. The problem arises when homosexuals in this country start to push for the legalization of gay marriage. Primarily, marriage is a legal union between a male and a female. From Merriam-Webster dictionary: [i]The state of being united to a person of the opposite sex as husband or wife in a consensual and contractual relationship recognized by law.[/i] I'd like to point out here that the marriage is first a legal definition before it is a religious one, no matter the culture. Think about it; a marriage doesn't officially begin until its sanctioned by a court, and doesn't end until the divorce is approved by the court. You might be wondering at this point, well, can't homosexuals just get married like straight people? Well, because it violates the aforementioned definition of marriage for obvious reasons. You are redefining the age-old definition of marriage if you allow homosexuals to marry under the legal term "marriage". This is where people of religious faiths are offended. There only request is that the civil union between two homosexuals be called something different. The term "same-sex marriage" is an oxymoron, because again it conflicts with the original statement of marriage. The only reason homosexuals wished to get married (in the U.S, at least) is because they wish to gain the fiscal advantages that marriage brings (i.e couples can file taxes together, thereby saving money). To call it a civil rights issue is appallingly stupid. I think the real solution to this popular dilemma is to grant the civil union between homosexuals the same financial benefits of a normal marriage.
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  • Edited by Dustin: 5/2/2013 3:55:54 AM
    1. Marriage was defined long before Merriam Webster. Furthermore, their definition isn't the legal definition. You are getting that confused. 2. If religious people are offended is bottom priority. Do you think people are offended for interracial marriage? Of course they are. At the end of the day, the majority of Americans support gay marriage. 3. There are more reasons homosexuals would like to get married other than to get equal benefits. But on that point, civil unions don't work while DOMA is still up. But to the point, gays want to marry because they love their partner, and want to express that. There is also the social equality factor. Putting gays down is not only the bullying of a minority group, but also bigoted and wrong in any set of ethics. 4. You said, 'most people don't care that homosexuals exist' which is implying that opposition to gay marriage does not stem from homophobia. That is simply not the case.

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  • Edited by asshole : 5/2/2013 4:49:28 AM
    1. [quote]Marriage was defined long before Merriam Webster[/quote] Precisely. And just how was it defined? Between a man and a woman. The [url=http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/1/7]legal definition[/url] agrees with both, anyways. 2. I forgot to elaborate; religious people are not only offended, but their religious practices are being attacked. Imagine if a bunch of atheists threw a Bar Mitzvah; it's the same concept here. It's more of a common courtesy thing than anything else. 3. Banning the legalization of gay marriage doesn't involve "putting gays down" or "bullying"; that's something else entirely. As human beings, homosexuals deserve to be treated with as much respect as the next guy (or girl). Also, homosexuals already enjoy every single liberty and right that a straight citizen enjoys, so the social-equality argument is not valid. Civil unions are supposed to be the marriage option for homosexuals, but according to you they don't work with this DOMA, so yeah... 4. Homophobia is quickly dying in this country, at least in the mainstream. Any considerable opposition to gay marriage stems from the fact that religious peoples feel threatened by the legalization of something the directly violates their teachings. Otherwise, they wouldn't care.

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  • Edited by Dustin: 5/2/2013 8:24:19 PM
    1. [quote]And just how was it defined? Between a man and a woman. [/quote]Umm... No? 2. [quote]Imagine if a bunch of atheists threw a Bar Mitzvah.[/quote]This is the western world; we live in freedom. We do what we want so long as we cause no harm. Saying atheists can't celebrate a Jewish tradition is wrong, ignorant, and is an unpopular opinion (and also violates the Constitution). Furthermore, marriage is not a religious institution. It was created long before religion. 3. Do you know of the ruling 'separate but equal'? Do you know why they overturned that? It was because while black schools and white schools both had the same funding, they created a social inequality by creating superior and inferior classes. That is exactly what's happening to the gay community right now. 4. What their religious teaching tell them, should apply to only them. They should not feel the need to enforce their religion onto other people. That is supported by the first amendment.

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