originally posted in:Secular Sevens
It's also worth noting here:
Disliking the environmental movement or environmentalists generally =/= disliking the environment itself
You'd probably get the same result if the sticker was blue and said "democracy" on it. They associate it with a political ideology that they are opposed to, and this influences their choice.
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So what? Do conservatives have an alternative, less popular method of helping the environment that I'm not aware of? [quote]You'd probably get the same result if the sticker was blue and said "democracy" on it.[/quote]You're joking, right? If a light bulb has any kind of "environmentally friendly" label, people are going to assume that's more energy efficient than a light bulb with no label. If a light bulb has a "democratic" label, people aren't going to assume that buying it helps democracy flourish. That's just absurd.
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[quote]people are going to assume that's more energy efficient than a light bulb with no label. [/quote] I disagree. If I see a label that says "environmentally friendly" I often associate it with "inferior, BUT no cruelty involved!" or "it doesn't matter if this is better or not, because environment!" as those are the more likely cases. I would NEVER assume "environmentally friendly" meant more efficient or better. Because generally a bulb that is environmentally friendly is less bright, to use less electricity.
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[quote]If a light bulb has any kind of "environmentally friendly" label, people are going to assume that's more energy efficient than a light bulb with no label.[/quote]Well that's really dumb and those people are suckers (assuming that your assumption about assumptions is true, which it may not be). Energy efficiency can and should be determined quantitatively based on the energy consumption info on the packaging. A mere green sticker is meaningless and is a weak marketing effort. People should be encouraged to ignore such things. [quote]If a light bulb has a "democratic" label, people aren't going to assume that buying it helps democracy flourish. [/quote]*woosh*
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[quote]If a light bulb has any kind of "environmentally friendly" label, people are going to assume that's more energy efficient than a light bulb with no label.[/quote]Well, no. If it was more efficient, I'd expect it to say "more efficient." Most of the "eco-friendly" stuff I see boasts about how their packaging is made from soy or recycled newspapers. [quote] If a light bulb has a "democratic" label, people aren't going to assume that buying it helps democracy flourish. That's just absurd.[/quote]I think he meant to write "Democrat."
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[quote]I think he meant to write "Democrat."[/quote]Nope. Point was, a blue sticker with "democracy" doesn't directly reference the party itself, but it would likely cause conservative shoppers to associate the product with liberal ideology and/or the Democratic party, and they would thus be less likely to buy it.
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All I expect is some green label on it with a tree or something.
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You are a sucker and marketers love you.
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Being under 18 and still living with my parents, I don't shop often for light bulbs, let alone for anything in particular. You can conclude that I most likely don't look at the labels for things I don't shop for, which would be correct. I simplified it to "a green label on it with a tree or something" because I've never had a good look at the packaging for light bulbs in the first place. That being said, if I shopped for light bulbs I would definitely pay more attention to details and research what eco-friendly labels are legit and which ones are just made up for marketing reasons.
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Oh so you were talking about something that, for understandable reasons, you're not really knowledgeable about. Got it.
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I feel a negative vibe coming from that post, like you're implying that I'm not knowledgeable in other areas than the legitimacy of various eco-friendly labels. Which isn't relevant to the study nor the science of light bulbs. :l
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Edited by RighteousTyrant: 5/2/2013 8:22:13 PMNot what I was trying to imply; sorry for the misunderstanding. In fact, I wasn't trying to imply anything at all -- the only meaning I meant to convey is pretty explicitly stated.