originally posted in:Secular Sevens
-blam!- this retarded garbage. Absolutely -blam!-ing fed up with being called privileged because I'm white. -blam!- this ultra left garbage. Trying to turn the persecution around is pathetic. It's absolutely disgusting. You know why society in the west is the way it is? Because most people in North America and Europe are white. Racism generally singles out minorities, specifically immigrants, and you know what? It's not fair. It is absolutely bullshit BUT THAT DOESN'T MEAN YOU TURN IT AROUND! In the middle-east look how minorities are treated, especially those of Jewish faith. ARAB PRIVILEGE IS RAMPANT IN THE MID-EAST HURR DURR! -blam!- racism, and this whole white privilege thing is most certainly racist. Apparently I'm supposed to feel bad that I'm not treated poorly? This guilting and shaming will only lead to ultra nationalists and fascism and those -blam!-ers are asking for it.
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Edited by Seggi: 4/20/2013 7:12:35 AMBeing called 'privileged' isn't about 'turning the persecution around', it's about acknowledging the advantages you have over others, and not perpetuating them. That's it.
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Who the -blam!- do they think they are to say I'm 'privileged' because I am white? Maybe others are disadvantaged but they should tackle the injustice done to minorities, not try to guilt white people. That is exactly what they're doing. They have created more resent than ever.
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Again, it's not about 'guilting' anybody, that's just what you're taking away from it. It's about making people with privilege recognise it and try not to perpetuate the disadvantages minorities and women face.
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Edited by Y SO REACH BETA: 4/20/2013 10:56:22 AMOkay, but the idea is that race somehow supersedes the other factors in your life, making you privileged.
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No, the idea is just that you're privileged in one particular aspect of your life - in this case, race. Other factors, like class, sexual orientation, or even just circumstance, can be much more important in determining how well you fare in life, but being white is usually just one less disadvantage. (Or one more advantage, depending on how you look at it.) Nobody's saying that you're a well-liked millionaire just because you're a straight white man.
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Still don't like it and I think it is the wrong way to go about racism. You want to stop racism? Address racists as human beings with a morally and intellectually wrong idea and rationally tell them why.
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Edited by Seggi: 4/20/2013 11:09:28 AMThe problem is much wider than conscious racism - that's the real issue, and it's exactly what the idea of privilege is addressing.
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No, it's basically saying "stop being white".
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oh boy you trolled me good
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Pretty much this. It's not trying to insult white people or make people feel bad about being white. It's just acknowledging the fact that if this was committed by a guy in a turban instead of a baseball cap, then a bunch of people would have gone after Sikhs because they happen to fit a stereotypical profile of what a terrorist "supposedly" looks like. NOBODY is trying to shame you or anybody else for being white. But they are drawing attention to the fact that white people will not be profiled because the two guys who did these crimes were as white as can be.