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originally posted in: Sam Harris - Islamophobe?
Edited by Eternal Way: 4/7/2013 3:23:16 AM
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So? I hate Islam. I also hate Christianity and nearly every observant Christian out there. Nothing would make me happier than seeing Christianity and Islam wiped from the face of the Earth. So what?
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  • Ah, so you actually hate Christians and Muslims then? So guys, this makes him a bigot for real then, doesn't it?

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  • You should examine the definition of that word and evaluate every way it could apply to you.

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  • Are you trying to say I am a bigot?

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  • By the definition of the word, you have displayed an obstinate devotion to your own opinions, to the point that reasoning with gravity would be more productive.

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  • I do not hate anybody here, so I don't know how you can think I'm a bigot.

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  • Bigotry doesn't require "hate". a person who is obstinately [u][b]or[/b][/u] intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices;

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  • So then, we are all bigots for obstinately believing the Earth is round?

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  • : perversely adhering to an opinion, purpose, or course in spite of reason, arguments, or persuasion Nope, you are incorrectly applying the definition of obstinate. We don't believe the Earth is round despite all the reason, arguments, and scientific persuasion that it is flat. We KNOW Earth is round BECAUSE of reason, science, etc.

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  • Okay then, by that logic then, being an atheist is bigoted. There's no proof that God doesn't exist, so you believe something with no evidence, and refuse all other arguments against it.

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  • Edited by dr0cx: 4/10/2013 7:02:43 PM
    Also incorrect. Here are 50. Given the logically solid arguments levied in this thread alone, the obstinance is in refusing all the arguments based on opinion.

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  • I hate neo-[url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin%27s_law]-godwinslaw!-[/url]; I am intolerant of them. Does that make me a bigot, max?

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  • No, because they did something to earn hatred. I was told before one must hate the adherents of a religion, and not just the religion to be called a bigot. And EW just said he hates the adherents of Christianity, so does that not make him a bigot, for hating people solely based on their religious beliefs?

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  • Edited by Eternal Way: 4/10/2013 1:24:48 AM
    I said I hated "observant" adherents of Christianity/Islam, i.e. Christians/Muslims who are truly Christian/Muslims rather than those "Christians"/"Muslims" who attempt to distill their religion with modern ideologies and pass the resultant concoction as "Christianity"/"Islam". A notable example would be yourself. I hate them not because of their beliefs or because they are the most intellectually dishonest, bigoted, hypocritical, sententious, irrational, and idiotic people to have ever existed on this planet (they are), but because of how they have and continue to spread their ideological filth to infect the majority of humanity, hindering the development of mankind and making it succumb to the very stupidities historically exhibited by the masses (nationalism, racism/xenophobia, hatred of opposing ideals, and what not), or heightening them to the point of hysteria. Worst of all, these selfsame people believe themselves to be in possession of absolute truth, where "absolute truth" in this case would be the metaphysical excretions of the most barbaric, inhumane, and disgusting cultures, or their troglodyte representatives, to desecrate this planet . It would be a good joke were it not for the fact that the majority of humanity abides by these ghastly creeds. Now what would I or do I recourse to to solve this problem, you might ask? Oh its simply, really. Instead of going the Christian/Muslim route and murdering those who oppose me, I'll expose the evils elicited by those two religions and advocate basic human decency and rationality, like any good human. In the meantime, I'll treat the people whom I mentioned above as normally as they will possibly allow me to. Call me a bigot if you wish, for I care not. What matters is that your kind is steadily losing...soon, all that will be left is a shadow and that too will be vanquished with impunity.

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  • It sounds like your getting the WBC confused with real Christians. And by the way, the Church isn't going anywhere. There are [i]3 billion[/i] Christians in the world, how many atheists on the globe are there? Maybe a couple hundred million, [i]at best[/i].

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  • I actually laughed at this since you proved my point.

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  • Edited by Ric_Adbur: 4/10/2013 3:53:00 AM
    Nice No True Scotsman fallacy. And actually, the trend over the last century has been overwhelmingly toward less religiousness and more secular thinking. Even less than a century ago, just a minuscule fraction of the world's population would dare openly identify themselves as non-religious. Today, more and more people are doing so all the time; not just because more people are feeling comfortable enough to admit it publicly, but also because more and more people are realizing that in this modern age of science and reason, explanations of a supernatural nature are no longer sufficient, and people are becoming less and less content to accept notions as truth without evidence and/or rational arguments to back them up. As a wise man once said, "science is more than a body of knowledge; it's a way of thinking." Humanity has now lived with this way of thinking long enough that it is becoming part of our collective unconscious... it's becoming second nature to us. It may yet take another century or more to get there, but if current trends continue, I think it's a very real possibility that one day there will be a world without religion.

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  • I bet you anything in 2525, the Church will still exist.

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  • I'm not so sure. Hell, Humanity might not even exist in 2525, at least not the way we know it.

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  • Well, the Church could have evolved into Space Catholicism by then, maybe...

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  • It's more likely that Humanity will either outgrow these sorts of primitive notions, or we will destroy ourselves.

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  • I'll kill for my deity.

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  • What did they do?

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  • Hating Jews? Wanting all Jews to die? Wanting an Aryan master race?

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  • Not all neonazis want all Jews to die, they just believe them to be genetically inferior people.

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  • Which still warrants being disliked.

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