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originally posted in: Knives As Self Defense Weapons
3/6/2013 7:12:22 PM
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I respect your opinion, and see where you are coming from, but allow me to retort: A knife is as most any other weapon. In the hands of someone who knows how to use it, it only increases the capabilities of the person wielding it. If the person does NOT know how to use it, it's a wild card. Same as a gun. If you have no idea what part of the barrel the bullet comes out, you may not have any level of effectiveness with that weapon. However, a police officer, for example, knows how to damage someone lethally or non-lethally as may be the necessity. While yes, knives do increase the potential for damage in any conflict wherein the knife is present, they can potentially offer a more effective escape in some scenarios. Most teenagers do not know how to use knives outside of cutting fruit. However, the group who does probably doesn't prefer to use that knife, but would prefer to have it anyway in case the situation came to that. People who are actually trained in knife combat know what they are carrying, and the kind of effect it will have on the situation. People who are trained probably also know that it's more effective to draw the knife and use it as a deterrent to fighting, preventing conflict in the first place. I've had friends who were in situations where they were being attacked, they drew their knife, and nothing happened between the two parties. They used the threat of damage from the knife to quell a potential fight. That is proper use. However, for those who do not take the threat, such as those who are on PCP, how does someone stop a drugged up berserker with their bare hands unless they are trained in breaking bones to completely incapacitate the person? Or lethal unarmed combat? A knife cutting muscles will reduce the capabilities of an attacker whether or not they're on drugs. It's physiology. Or a knife to a lethal area causing bleedout will also stop an attacker. Heck, if you can penetrate through the magnum foramen and nail the brain in just the right way, you have potential to insta-drop your opponent with a large enough knife. Fights are bad as soon as they begin. A knife used properly is merely a tool to change the course of that battle. Such also is a gun. While conflict should be entirely avoided to begin with, a knife in the right hands can be used to reduce the risk to the innocent.
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  • I love knives and I'll continue to carry them for a sense of security.

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  • I really disagree with this post. Especially with your friends drawing knives on people. It both damages the public view of the knife community and sets puts your friends ina position that invites their attacker to also use a weapon.

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  • "the knife community"? really? What else do people carry a knife on them for but self defense? and don't tell me for utility, if they needed it for utility they'd only have it when on the job. The reason his friends pull knives is to deter the fight and it works, the attacker isn't going to walk away and go "wow, I really didn't like that knife guy's attitude"

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  • Not only is a knife an amazing tool for me on my job, but it is a very usefull emergency tool. There are a variety of situations where you may be caught up by something where your need a knife to release yourself from. As well as being able to prepare yourself food and easily open packages. There is a knife community, and it is very much bothered by people using knives as weapons so often. It has a very negative affect on how people react when we use a knife or when is gets the attention of law makers.

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  • [quote]There are a variety of situations where you may be caught up by something where your need a knife to release yourself from[/quote] like a combat situation? I really don't see the "knife community" as thing. I live in new york and near NYC, so there's a fair bit of crime around and on the news. When things like newport happen, everyone talks about gun owners and restrictions to be placed on gun ownership and how the "gun community" is in an uproar about said restrictions. When somebody gets stabbed, you never hear talk about knife restrictions or how the "knife community" feels about it, because its really not a big deal. This disparaging of this "knife community" is non existent and if at all, not anywhere near as prevalent as you seem to think it is. Because knives are also a tool like you said, there really isn't a community in the way that weapons like guns or other things have a community around them. There's no hammer community is there? I'm sure there are knife aficionados but not really such a large group of people that can identify with and relate to knives specifically.

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