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There is a lot of talk of secret conspiracies regarding the release of Destiny, shady legal ramifications, and plots to influence the world market via the use of a massive prevaricating perjury beam.
Everyone wants to get their hands on Destiny as soon as possible, we all feel it in our hearts so don't lie to yourself. But please don't get your hopes up because they're likely to get crushed. I'm hoping this message gets across to you not only because the feed is getting clogged by this everyday but because I don't want you to be severely disappointed by a 2014 launch and/or attack Bungie for something that they can't be blamed for.
Surprise! I like Bungie a lot. If you don't read the spoilers please don't respond belligerently to this thread.
Concepts
[spoiler]Maybe this can shed a little light on the matter in the midst of this the communication breakdown. Investor statements can be historical or forward-looking, only historical statements must divulge all details of company activities. Forward-looking investor statements are published to balance the various legalities surrounding their stock and their responsibility to the shareholders to make them money.
This can hopefully be simply explained by making a few concepts clear:
First off, publicly traded companies can be held legally accountable for tampering with the market. This basically means that a company with investors is obligated to inform those investors of what to realistically expect within the fiscal year. Such companies can be taken to court for not making good on promises or hiding major developments, the legal argument is that of some form of insider trading or stock manipulation took place.
Second, these companies are expected by our quasi-darwinian laissez-faire economy model to attempt to make a profit. If Nike is shipping new Jordans this year, they would be wise to make such an announcement (however bland or revealing it may be) in order to increase the value of their shares. This in turn garners a positive image of the company in consumers' and competitors' eyes and gives them better positioning for any negotiation or business bullshit.[/spoiler]
Examples
[spoiler]The balancing act is comprised of avoiding legal or regulatory action while making the largest profit possible. For example:
If company A releases a statement claiming to have desirable ventures in the the works that will make the company highly sought after on the stock market and the business world, yet fails to make good on those promises then there is a potential incurrence of legal ramifications with the allegations being that of stock manipulation. This would make the company's stock appear more valuable.
Likewise:
If company B releases a statement that excludes extremely profitable projects, then releases the knowledge of the projects unexpectedly (fully planning to complete the specified projects), there is a possibility that lawsuits could be initiated accusing company B of intentionally lowering its value so purchases of cheap stock could be later sold for profit. This is essentially insider trading.[/spoiler]
Hopefully that made sense to you. No I am not a business major, fire away.
tl;dr_Activision is responding to the great amount of hype over this game (way to go Seventh Column) and Bungie's silence regarding the game's specifics, by outrightly stating the game will not be released this year. In hopes of avoiding any legal action, Activision has made it clear that any amount of speculation will remain speculation and not affect the actual launch of Destiny.
Furthermore it is most likely that the new consoles will not ship on the same date, therefore it would be very difficult and require a great amount of paperwork and lawyering to have Destiny as a launch title for both consoles.
[url=http://investor.activision.com/releasedetail.cfm?releaseid=740914]Again this isn't a hate thread, just trying to help out.[/url]
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5 Replies in this Sub-ThreadMy only thought is that it would be silly for them to plan on an early 2014 launch when they clearly have known about next-gen consoles for quite some time. Do you really think that they wouldn't schedule a few extra crunches (or outsource a project or two for that matter) to make the console release date? Also, I imagine Sony and Microsoft have a lot riding on Destiny, so they would push for this as well. If they have been working on Destiny for 4 years, I really can't imagine them planning poorly and missing launch by a few months. It's either going to be a console release or be fall of 2014, and I cannot imagine a year and a half of advertising and pre-orders for a game.
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This game will be the culmination of 20 years of experimentation on the FPS genre, even though they may have the story down completely they still had to build a new game engine, port the game to both next gen consoles, and figure out how to correctly implement all of the revolutionary aspects of the game. Bungie has not had 300+ minds working on this game for all of it's development, I may be wrong but as far as I know they have been steadily hiring throughout the process. The inclusion of Comet in the production cycle only heightens the urgency to get everything right with the first incarnation. Halo 2 and 3 were allowed 3 years of solid development, if the leaked contract is vaguely reliable, Bungie will need a perfect engine to produce an improved game in two years that has the same amount of depth that the first is promised to have. Rushing the early stages will only cause more problems later on, if they are expected to produce some form of expansion every single year it would make the most sense to get it right the first time around. Creating a [i]sequel[/i] to Halo (a fairly static game in comparison to the promised Destiny) took them 3 years and they cut many things purely due to scheduling. Even with the increase in manpower (which likely compensates for the massive scope of the game) this undertaking would still be more difficult than creating a sequel. Sorry if I sound like a dick for arguing with you.
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Edited by x Sir G Omer x: 3/6/2013 6:45:27 AMNot in the least. I guess I just think they have a ton of talent in the building and they have many tools available to make this happen smoother and more efficient than ever before. Every single "Breaking In" article talks about how they bring a new thing to the team that allows for better use of time and talents. Basically all I'm saying is that it is not unreasonable to consider a 2013 release, especially considering the game engine & back-end servers were "robust and considerably steady" all the way back in Bungie Day 2012. If they have been play-testing for over a year with over 300 people working on it, and we STILL have 9 months to go, I think we should at least see a Beta by November. If I'm wrong, I'm wrong. No harm no foul. But if I'm right........ Hot damn I'm ready to play this game!
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