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CLOCKMAN search widens - Professionals Now on the Case

[b]***NEW NEWS***[/b] [quote]The search for clock Man has now entered into hardcore mode. First, I've personally emailed cartoon collectors/experts to see what they can discover in their personal archives. I've offered a cash reward to anyone with Clock Man in their collection. In addition B.net Member [u]pawn leo[/u] has contacted film universities spanning the globe for help from the academic field. The schools included are... - National Film and Televison School (Prague and London campuses) - Vancouver Film School - UCLA - Arizona State - Cornell - BYU - Baden-Wuerttemberg Film Academy (Ludwigsburg,Germany) If one of these institutions are able to find the Clock Man short before a collector, I have offered to donate the money to their institution instead. One other note: B.net Member [u]antonio iz 217[/u] Has mentioned to me in a PM (as well as posting in this thread) that his cousin in California has a large cache of Pinwheel episodes on VHS and both him and his cousin believe The Clock Man short is on one of the old tapes. He promised to post the Clock Man short on Youtube if it's found in that collection. That won't be for 2-3 weeks though. There has been enough people that have confirmed remembering the exact same short, so I feel very confident that this was not a jumbled memory. Any new information that I get my hands on, I will post in this "News Section" as soon as it becomes available. [/quote] [quote][/quote] [b][u]ORIGINAL POST[/b][/u] I am looking for a particular animated short that terrified me as a child. I've been looking on and off for it for nearly 4 years. Maybe it doesn't exsist. Maybe...nobody should ever find it. But if someone can - it's The Flood. [quote][/quote] [u][b]Artwork Depicting the Scenes[/u][/b] [u][b]THE MYSTERY OF "CLOCK MAN"[/u][/b] [url=http://i629.photobucket.com/albums/uu19/Commander_Santa/ClockMan.jpg] THE BEST I COULD DO TO DRAW CLOCKMAN[/url] [url=http://www.iaza.com/work/120117C/iaza15919346546800.gif] Above Drawing Animated - credit for animation goes to [u]BalistaGaming[/u][/url] [quote][/quote] [u][b]CLUES[/u][/b] [u]Clue #1:[/u] The short I am looking for appeared during an old Nickelodeon Show in the early/middle 1980's. Target year is around 1984. [url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MLCg1kb1sA0&feature=related] The Show was called "Pinwheel"[/url] [u]Clue #2:[/u] "Pinwheel" collected cartoons and stop-motion animation shorts from all over the world to add to their show. I'm almost certain it's a stop animation...but all these years later it could be a cartoon. Nevertheless, the short is most likely not American. [u]Clue #3:[/u] I've already scoured Wiki, TV Junk, Retro Junk, Big Cartoon Database, toonariffic.com and Youtube and have come up empty handed. I've also Googled and Yahoo searched for this short as well. Maybe it's the one thing that has evaded the internet all this time. And Maybe for good reason. [u]Clue #4:[/u] Due to a number of different posts on different forums I have come across something extrodinarily strange. I've discovered in the early 1980's 3 differernt kid's shows [u]on 3 different networks[/u] all shared the same animated shorts from all over the globe. The 3 shows are 1. [u]Pinwheel[/u]- Nickelodeon (listed above). 2.[url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dddm5bQeKvg] The Great Space Coaster[/url] (Cable Access?) 3. [url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TKvpggqr9nI] And Calliope[/url] (USA Network). I can't find out how they are linked - yet. But I will continue looking. Maybe this will help expand the search as well. [u]Clue #5:[/u] I have personally e-mailed a former director of the show "Pinwheel" for more information, as well as the only known seller of Pinwheel shows online with no success. Others have also attempted to contact execs at Nickelodeon and Viacom to try and shed some light on the subject. All responses recieved were of no help. The DVD's for sale arrived on day #6 of the search at my home and did not contain the episode with "Clock Man" in it. [u]Clue #6:[/u] Strangely, many people old enough to watch the show Pinwheel have commented that the show would put them in a dreamlike state when watching - some go as far to say they were "hypnotized" while watching and had hallucenations. Whether this is only a result of the memories being so old or something more sinister I cannot say. Although many have shared my fuzzy memory of Clock Man, others suggest that Clock Man is a result of being hypnotized by Pinwheel's allure. [quote][/quote] [u][b]SHOWS THAT HAVE BEEN RULED OUT SO FAR[/u][/b] - [url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UjgHbRrnjhU]The Sandman[/url] - [url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WLBCHFmwDaY&feature=related] The Clock Store [/url] - Emily [url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xiIZYHYoQpA]- Creepy Einstein Cartoon [/url] - The Red Shoes (Mel-o Toons) circa 1960 - Hattytown Tales - [url=http://johnnorrisbrown.com/classic-nick/pinwheel/Alfie.htm] Alfie [/url] - [url=http://img703.imageshack.us/img703/9744/screenshot20120116at111.png] This is Ebeneezer (Not Clock Man)[/url] - [url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CUc-6GM4PDg] NutCracker Fantasy Opening[/url] Also very close, but not it. - [url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K1UcOJWZ9AM&feature=related] "The BoogieMan Cometh."[/url] Also close - but not Not Clock Man. (creepy though) - Davey and Goliath - [url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ssbOQx315Mo] The Daydreamer (1966)[/url] Strikingly close description, but not it. [quote][/quote] [u][b]THE THREE BEST DESCRIPTIONS OFFERED SO FAR[/u][/b] [b]#1.[i](BEST DESCRIPTION)[/i] Found by Floodian [u]oOMr. CheeseyOo[/u] posted on a horror forum in June of 2002...[/b] [quote]...Then there was one based on this story of a little girl who lost her red shoes. so she asked a local wizard for hel (who could appear and disappear anywhere). He helped her, but told her she had to tell her mom. The little girl goes home and doesn't hoping the wizard would forget. But then the musicgets eerie as the narrator says 'But the Wizard...did not, forget.' And we see him appearing and disappearing along the house floors, till he suddenly pops out of her clock and steals her away, demanding to know why she didn't tell her mom. She makes up for it by sewing stars to put in the night sky, and the next day is returned home, and tells her mom the truth.[/quote] [b]#2 [i](MY ORIGINAL DESCRIPTION)[/i]...[/b] [quote]This short animation was terrifying as a child. The scene is still burned into my mind (28 years later). It's of a young boy sleeping in his bed. Above his bed is a ticking clock. All the lights in the room are off and it is very dark. Suddenly the clock begins to slow down it's ticking and eventually it stops...on midnight. When the clock stops a Greenish/Bluish man climbs out of the clock. The boy wakes up just in time to see this man dressed in black grab him out of bed and kidnap him by carrying him through a window. The "Clock Man" takes the boy on some kind of terrifying adventure and brings him back to his bed before sunrise.[/quote] [b]#3. [i](DESCRIPTION SUBMITTED BY A POSTER ON /x/ FORUM)[/i]...[/b][quote]Holy -blam!- I remember this -blam!- short! It was like claymation with poorly made dolls and the animation was real stuttery and -blam!-. It started with the kid's mom telling him goodnight and closing the door behind her after shutting off the light. Then the door slowly creeks open while a generic eerie wind sound blows and the camera cuts into the kids room at the foot of his bed. He struggles to open his eyes as they slowly droop and he eventually gives in and goes to sleep. Then it cuts up to the clock while the second hand slowly ticks to 12:00. When it hits it there's like a low bell ringing sound and the camera goes back to the foot of the kid's bed. The "Clock Man's" head peeks into the room like the clock were a window. Unlike what the OP's image shows, the Clock Man's head then recedes back and his arms comes out and pushes the clock open like a door, revealing a big dark hole behind the clock. Then Clock Man hops out of the hole and the kid wakes up and stares beady eyed at the Clock Man. Then the Clock Man starts doing like a weird Irish river-dance. Oh, and the Clock Man looks a little different from the picture. He was wearing like an all black turtleneck sweater and a black bowler hat. His skin was green and I don't really remember him having a beard but he did have a big toothy smile and two real big eyes with very tiny pupils. I don't think I actually watched much after that. But I distinctly remember the Clock Man saying his name was [u]"Benjamin"[/u] and he rung an elevator up to the kid's window.[/quote] [i]***I don't remember Benjamin, and the Clock Man in my memories had a black, bushy beard. Everything else is exactly the same.[/i] [u][b]*****REWARD?*****[/u][/b] To avoid making this a contest (and therefore against forum rules) I will only say this... If by chance...someone was able to locate this terrifying child's animation and post it in this thread - there is a very good possibility that you will be handsomely rewarded in a PM from me. - Anyone with questions - feel free to ask, I'll answer anything I can. It's been a very long time since I've seen that short animation and it has haunted me for almost 30 years. I can't begin to tell you how happy I'd be to see it one more time before I pass away. [Edited on 01.21.2012 10:16 PM PST]
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  • People have been looking since '07? LOL. This has to be the biggest. And pointless post in the flood.

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  • You can not stop him with out stopping every thing in its tracks for ever. He is time its self. He is all that ever was and all that ever will be. He is the clock man, may he have mercy on your soul.

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  • I think goedhartbros may be on to something. THe dates are right, the plot is a little different, but no color. And the clock man had a beard and stuff. Didn't the original have color too? [Edited on 01.14.2012 11:53 AM PST]

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] gaurdianAQsclone Anyway to possibly contact nickelodian?[/quote]

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  • As beïng an animator myself I have to tell you that a story for short animations is created in a different way than for movies. For a movie you can follow different types of story structure. For example [url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=SB_Q1gFsvIw]"The Hero's Journey"[/url], the 3 act structure (Titanic) Begin, Middle (Big change like a ship that starts sinking), End or follow a genre specific structure. In the case of an animated short (Looney Tunes), a short movie (Mr. Bean) or a short story(Stephen King'early work) of +- 9-12 minutes there is no time to introduce characters proporly. That's why animators use stereo types (we don't need 30 minutes to understand the relationship between Tom & Jerry because we all know that cat's hate mice). And to create background stories for characters and environments (etc.), animators create mindmaps to place certain objects in the scene that we assosiate with a certain emotion. This also saves time. This is also done in some long movies like the shining. In one scene the kid is sitting at the kitchen table and in the background we see a knife above the kids head. Our mind detects potential danger but as a viewer we feel like we're scared without a reason (because the knife is in a safe spot, but we assosiate it with fear)! The Shining feels like 4 hours and is -blam!- scary. Kids are very sensitive to assosiations, so it's possible that the scene excists but is invisible to us because we have different values to certain objects right now. It's also possible that it caused some kind of lucid dream to a relative large number of people. [Edited on 01.14.2012 11:03 AM PST]

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Goedhart bros It's also possible that it caused some kind of lucid dream to a relative large number of people.[/quote] Clockmanception

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  • Has anyone tried searching the Deep Web for this? I'm giving it some thought.

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  • I think my earlier mention of having remembered clockman was a result of watching Pinwheel for the last two hours. Maybe it does put you in some sort of trance! Also, I set up a thread in the Minecraft forums.

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] NarwhalSlayer99 I think my earlier mention of having remembered clockman was a result of watching Pinwheel for the last two hours. Maybe it does put you in some sort of trance! Also, I set up a thread in the Minecraft forums.[/quote] Shows are always designed to grab you. Pinwheel is not different. Every show gives you something that needs to be solved. Every show causes some kind of trance.

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  • But some people have claimed to have been hallucinating (Hope I spelled that right) when watching Pinwheel. Could this all be a conspiracy theory? Maybe. Did Santa actually have seen the clockman short? Maybe. The problem is, we don't know who the Producers/Directors/Crew was at all. We need to find them.

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  • [url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JepL-nb_hVY&feature=results_video&playnext=1&list=PLE1A50AB40E6E79F7[/url] Killing Time (1984 film), nominated for a BAFTA Award for Best Short Film [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Killing_Time[/url] [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BAFTA_Award_for_Best_Short_Film#1980s[/url] maybe

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] WeededDragon [url=http://www.google.com/trends/?q=Clock+Man&ctab=0&geo=all&date=all]People have been searching for Clock Man since 2007![/url] The creepy part is the drop where NO ONE was looking for clock man.[/quote] OMGOMG! WTF! compare that to other stats and it's indeed creepy! OP: Is the animation like this? [url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fxQcBKUPm8o[/url] Maybe somebody who was inspired by Tim Burton made it [Edited on 01.14.2012 10:22 AM PST]

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Goedhart bros [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] WeededDragon [url=http://www.google.com/trends/?q=Clock+Man&ctab=0&geo=all&date=all]People have been searching for Clock Man since 2007![/url] The creepy part is the drop where NO ONE was looking for clock man.[/quote] OMGOMG! WTF! compare that to other stats and it's indeed creepy![/quote] Look at this for just the US! There is another creepy drop in searches. [url=http://www.google.com/trends/?q=Clock+Man&date=all&geo=usa&ctab=0&sa=N]US Only[/url]

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] WeededDragon [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Goedhart bros [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] WeededDragon [url=http://www.google.com/trends/?q=Clock+Man&ctab=0&geo=all&date=all]People have been searching for Clock Man since 2007![/url] The creepy part is the drop where NO ONE was looking for clock man.[/quote] OMGOMG! WTF! compare that to other stats and it's indeed creepy![/quote] Look at this for just the US! There is another creepy drop in searches. [url=http://www.google.com/trends/?q=Clock+Man&date=all&geo=usa&ctab=0&sa=N]US Only[/url][/quote] Also, why are there so many people in manchester who want to find it? This can tell us that "Clockman" may be the actual title of the short [Edited on 01.14.2012 10:26 AM PST]

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  • We should Flood Nikcelodeon with emails and phone if they refuse to reply to Shadow's email. They'll have to answer us. Maybe you could even go to Nick Studios. They might be able to help. WE HAVE TO FIND CLOCKMAN! I know I saw him somewhere when I was little but I'm still a teen. I remember seeing it though!

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] NarwhalSlayer99 We should Flood Nikcelodeon with emails and phone if they refuse to reply to Shadow's email. They'll have to answer us. Maybe you could even go to Nick Studios. They might be able to help. WE HAVE TO FIND CLOCKMAN! I know I saw him somewhere when I was little but I'm still a teen. I remember seeing it though![/quote] Maybe they don't even know it

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  • I turned my clock around to face the wall last night.

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  • [url=http://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=pinwheel+TV&go=&qs=n&sk=&sc=8-11&form=QBVR#x0y0]More Pinwheel-related junk.[/url] At this point I'm just trying to see if I can jog Santa's memory and see if we can get more clues.

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  • Damn, that pin wheel stuff looks extremely creepy.

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  • Someone already posted on 4chan so I would just wait for them to figure out.

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Dr Sarsfield Damn, that pin wheel stuff looks extremely creepy.[/quote] There's some really messed up stuff in this thread already. I want to see this Clockman short now.

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Madmaxepic I turned my clock around to face the wall last night.[/quote] I hid mine in the closet... In another room...

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  • I posted this on my secret facebook group consisting of a bunch of like minded nerds from across the country, so hopefully some of their vast connections across the internet will come in handy here.

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Goedhart bros [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] NarwhalSlayer99 We should Flood Nikcelodeon with emails and phone if they refuse to reply to Shadow's email. They'll have to answer us. Maybe you could even go to Nick Studios. They might be able to help. WE HAVE TO FIND CLOCKMAN! I know I saw him somewhere when I was little but I'm still a teen. I remember seeing it though![/quote] Maybe they don't even know it[/quote] Meh. It'll still be funny when they're like "WHO THE -BLAM- IS CLOCKMAN?!?!??!!" [Edited on 01.14.2012 10:57 AM PST]

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  • This thread is too cool. Saved.

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