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12/8/2025 3:38:17 PM
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SAY IT WITH ME NOW
BARRIER CHAMPS
RADIANT, VOLATILE ROUNDS AND UNRAVEL ROUNDS
OVERLOAD
JOLT, SUPPRESSION, SLOW AND SHATTER
UNSTOPPABLE
BLIND, IGNITION AND SUSPEND
LITERALLY BUILD INTO THE CONTENT YOU PLAY ON WHAT CHAMPS THERE ARE.
How many weapons have these effects?????
Sounds like a skill issue for some of you lot.
I don’t even care if you boo me I have seen the comments in here.
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there are people who would use erianas would deff use erianas but hand cannons tho is kinda underwhelming on may different archetypes really it’s not a skill issue it’s just a very underwhelming seasonal mod that can’t even at least 2 tap anti barrier shields probably the reason why more use anti barrier sniper or one weapon with said champion intrinsics if they could maybe tune it to give a fighting chance the it’s a good change of pace unless they have a good reason for the seasonal artifact mods to focus with certain weapons the devs are hyping then that’s understandable but otherwise i think you see the picture
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The praxis blade can break the shields, all the anti barrier intrinsic weapons can break the shield (Exotics), radiant can break the shield, unravel can break the shield, volatile can break the shield, hand cannon and sniper seasonal mods can break the shield. If people really struggle with that, that to me is a skill issue. I’m not being mean I’m just calling a duck a duck. People are using legendary hand cannons with perks that don’t help break the shield but only give heal clip and incandescent after a kill. No wonder they struggle to pop the shield. They need to get techsec armour set on, Thorn, any exotic hand cannon is gonna have a 30% increase over legendary one any of these it’s just not that hard.
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i see the issue on that now i guess its some kinda dopamine spam seeing something one tap a champion shield probably
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In which way bud? That typically it’s easier to break them or that there is an issue to break them?
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sometimes to break them but it might just be a big skill issue and i’m deff doing something wrong lol
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Ahaha what’s your issue you think. Hopefully can help you out. Whats your typical loadout when dealing with anti barrier champions?
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this is just a yap i apolocheese TLDR consistence is just a players desire when it comes to stunning anti barriers i’ll have to test pellet Hcs sometime usually the stuff i find consistent really pulse rifles or exotic intrinsics heck sometimes i’ll even run old arbalest autos if that’s in season praxic blades been the best go to recently sidearms ofc cause that’s a good one on anyday of the week snipers i’ll run very normally cause those are good and consistent tho some of my teammates don’t think it’s consistent when it actually do numbers that’s just really what i like but it’s just become some people fixation that champion mods mandatory need is just consistency then stun build up has many different variations that seem to make people be 50/50
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if anything maybe shield damage matter where you hit but i really run about anything i can get out of stunning champions i just try and think reasonably why a player may want it
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Edited by Dooodley: 12/9/2025 11:11:08 AMThe biggest issue is barrier and the HC's being so damn weak - forcing us to rely on procs or SR's. They should just lower the amount it takes to break a barrier with a HC instead. Still forces you to somewhat adapt to champs but being able to do so in accordance with the artifact.
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Booooooo 👻
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Ahahahh
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Say it with me now… Peregrine Greaves!!!!!!!!!!!!! I prefer an uncomplicated build 🤣
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Pregeine Greaves users: “Champions what champions? I didn’t see any 😅🤣”
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Yaaaasss💥👊🏻
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the ONLY good ability is the stasis turret (it was GREAT by dealing with 2 champs in the past), but even then, we are talking about one class. radiant, volatile, unravel, blind, ignition, suspend, supression, all of these are awful to deal with champions in hard activities.
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No. Volatile is on how many weapons? Unravel is literally the hardest I’ll give you that but it’s still doable Suspend is easy to do on every class and has a exotic bow Blind had a literal grenade and is easy to -blam!- from arc weapon pre of kills Jolt is literally just a weapon perk Slow and shatter is on every stasis weapon with chill clip Ignition is done by burning ambition or many abilities Radiant is so easy too I’m sorry but to say these are hard is a joke to me. Years ago it was hard but in today’s sandbox there are so many abilities, fragments, weapons and weapon perks that allow champions to be stunned that you really don’t even need the artefact to have every weapon type for stunning.
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Getaway build gives you overload (+unstop if hellion), but that’s where the generosity ends unless you use SoF for radiant. You must have some crazy timing to utilise the 5 seconds of radiant from the melee fragment.
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Edited by TBONE: 12/10/2025 6:50:02 AMI use collective psyche for 8 secs. Powered melee hits reactivates the time. I also use Techsec for my Kinetic HC so I don’t have any issue. When I get the new heavy sniper I’ll be using that too so I really just ain’t getting the complaints about anti barrier this season.
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The biggest complaints is how strong barriers are if you’re not using the DLC weapons to break them (HC, Sniper). Sniper sometimes takes 3 shots, and no legendary HC is able to break it full-stop. They clearly did this to make you want to buy the DLC more. Classic case of creating the problem and selling the solution.
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Techsec 4 piece with Fate bringer (That has osmosis/one for all) breaks it down fast but to make sure I can I use unbreakable/shackle to get volatile/unravel rounds which pops them and/or a powered melee hit for radiant on top off. Or use kinetic tremors on my shiny midnight coup. Seems like end game now needs real power house combo’s like this not just a HC shot anymore. This is the way…
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All you really have to learn... I'm sure you know this; Unstopps can be bullied with grenades in the current sandbox. Overloads have been made free. That's not the lesson. ANY Barrier can be broken in ONE shot. That's the LESSON. Learn that. Learn the timing for it... as the telegraphed animation starts. Be ready for the proc. That's it. Simplifies everything. Farm the mod, literally any legendary weapon since EoF. 😇👍💠
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Edited by glitchHiker: 12/9/2025 9:54:12 AMLol burning ambition? The only way that causes an ignition is with hellion, otherwise titans/hunters trying to use burning ambition will be able to stun an unstop in roughly 10 minutes or so! Yeah that sounds so simple!
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I mean yeah if you’re just stood there only firing a primary for sure but I’m pretty sure most players aren’t gonna do that in reality as they’re probably gonna use an ability like consecration or the newly buffed gun powder gamble.
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You edited your original comment. You originally listed weapon verb perks that work against champions and listed burning ambition along with perks like jolting feedback/voltshot and chill clip, which do work easily on their own, but burning ambition is not one that works well on its own. It can help speed up ignitions with something like hellion, but would take multiple clips to ignite on its own. Your original, unedited comment made it sound like you could easily stun champions with just the verb perks you listed, which was partially wrong. Your comment was/is extremely patronizing/rude and I just thought it was hilarious that you listed burning ambition as being "anti-unstoppable" the same way chill clip is anti-overload, a perk you can just stand there, shoot and stun them immediately. But you edited it out so whatever.
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Edited by TBONE: 12/10/2025 9:14:54 AMI haven’t it’s still there. I said it’s useable to do and again it goes off each build. I said to someone else who tried to made the same comment about burning ambition that most people will probably use other abilities in tandem with the perk to cause ignition’s. Nice try though I don’t care if you don’t like being called out. This post just sounds like a lot of people crying over artefact perks when the game has all the other ways to do stun champions. Sticks and stones….. The only thing I changed was one post for a grammar issue to make clear. I stand by what I said. Edit: just looked that “someone” was YOU. For fun I just looked at your account, you have never hit paragon and the best triumph you have is star baker. No offence but let’s just stick to our own lanes 😉
