And there a Stockholm syndrome crowds that will bend their intestines to somehow continue to like whatever Bungie spews out.

You’re whining about people whining on an forum

Well, I wouldn't sign that now! It is the following problem ...: Bungie listens to feedback, I would like to say that very clearly here. The only problem here is that you usually only hear the counterproductive feedback and the wrong division of players here in the game! (Unfortunately, it is like that! Whether you want to admit it or not!) [b]We only have 2 player types here:[/b] [b]Casuals and hardcore players. There is nothing more in between.[/b] The problem is that Destiny is a wonderful game, but at the moment of creativity in terms of content in, the game is absolutely on the false terrain. This new activity on Dreadnought, Nether or whatever it's called, is a good activity in itself. I don't find it bad. The problem here is, if Bungie already gives us the Dreadnought as a new explorable place, then you should primarily give us the [b]whole[/b] Dreadnought! Many areas from the Dreadnaught back then from D1 are not inquiring, only a small part of it, which is a shame! I also think it's a shame that you can no longer use and play the rune event at the Court of Oryx at the time, which was the case in D1 at the time. There are many collectibles in the place, I think, this is good. What I don't like is the fact, that the perks on the relic in Eris' Quarter are time-gated! Something like that is [b]always[/b] a wrong decision! [b]Nobody[/b] likes time-gated things, absolutely [b]nobody[/b]! Dear Bungie Team, you can do that with the seasons, I mean "episodes", which you already do ... but not with a vendor that is appealing in this case - yes, the table with the responsive relic in Eris' quarter is nothing more than A "seasonal vendor". Pretty big wrong decision! Not a good decision to design the gameplay in this case. I think the difficulty on the Dreadnought, that you have to play more tactically from time to time, I also find it good, just a shame that all the regen effects, certain exotics, which enable regen effects and do not work accordingly. I understand what Bungie intends to do with this idea in which you have deactivated these elements in this activity, but in my opinion, this was implemented counterproductively - not all players are a Godgamer like "Esoterickk 2.0". The loot is good, but in my opinion, you are "flooded" with loot - that's not good, so the time you put in this activity also loses value because in the end you "taste" with so much loot in the end and at the end of the day it no longer knows exactly where the whole stuff - because you felt everything felt 100 times - that the boss drops loot at the end, I think it's good. As I said - this new activity on the Dreadnought is good, but in my opinion still too immature and too little of the size - here you would have to take the whole Dreadnought map from D1 at that time.

another post with someone complaining about complaints. The season is literally overthrow from the Pale Heart so wtf are you talking about saying it's "different"

Is whining about whiners whining about whining a point or rebuttal?

Now your whining about whiners whining.

it's just attrition but worse its not new, its boring and unfun lets us know how it feels in a few more weeks,

It’s not very different tbh. The first mission was a exact copy of a mission from curse of Osiris. The dreadnaught is all areas I explored YEARS AGO.