The reason why ergo sum can't be pulled from collections is most likely due to it having the intrinsic trait being random rolled so if you could pull it from collections then like hawk moon it would just be the ? Telling you that you can earn rolls from the drop sources for ergo. That would mean it would just be a sword with no perk and no sword frame sense that part is also random. The class items are in the same boat. Pulling it from collections, it wouldn't have any aspects, so it would basically just be a legendary class item that takes an exotic slot at that point.
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Edited by Ariovrak: 7/25/2024 3:51:49 AMActually, the Class Items [i]would[/i] have Perks. Look at them in Collections right now, and you can see that they all have a pair of default Perks. Also, there is a base version of Ergo Sum in the code. It has a Wave Frame, and Gathering Light.
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Just because they show something doesn't mean they would have those if you pulled it out of collections. If you could pull them out, it would either have to be a set roll or not have a roll at all. Seeing as how it's a random rolled weapon and armor, it would be they didn't have any roll.
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Edited by Ariovrak: 7/25/2024 4:13:06 AMHawkmoon is a randomly rolled Weapon. All of the Exotic Armor pieces have randomly rolled stats. Despite this, you can pull set versions of them from Collections.It's weird that the new Exotics wouldn't follow the same precedent. It just feels wrong.
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It's almost like ergo sum, and the class items are random rolls that if you could pull them out of collections, they wouldn't have any random roll to them. Hawk moon can be pulled out because it has a set roll without the random perk. If it didn't, then you wouldn't be able to pull it out.
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Edited by Ariovrak: 7/25/2024 4:40:38 PMThing is, Ergo Sum and the Class Items [i]also[/i] have set rolls without the random Perks. If you pulled from collections, it would be like pulling Hawkmoon, a set roll. Literally everything about Ergo Sum has a default. Default Wave Frame with Gathering Light and Burst Guard. Same thing goes for the Class Items. Stoicism's default is Spirit of Severance and Spirit of Contact. Relativism's default is Spirit of the Dragon and Spirit of the Cyrtarachne. Solipsism's default is Spirit of the Necrotic and Spirit of the Swarm.
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That makes a lot of sense.