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2/8/2023 4:19:28 AM
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Leave Well of Radiance alone

A lot of us enjoy playing support characters. THATS OK. I enjoy putting on Well and running Div and wear boots of the assembler. A lot times those tracking heals have helped a weaker or new player get through a raid or encounter. LFGs can be… interesting. Well isn’t over powered and if you don’t play right you can get killed in it. So why do we run it? We like if. We enjoy it. It fulfills that healer power fantasy. In short Well is popular because the power fantasy is popular. Not because it’s “mandatory”.

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  • Edited by Nattor8299: 2/8/2023 6:14:04 AM
    I’ve heard from warlocks, Both “we’re tired of running well all of the time” and then once a rumor of a nerf comes around “don’t touch my well of radiance” 😂

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    • Inb4 damage nerf.

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    • Edited by Abyss: 2/9/2023 3:11:35 PM
      Nah fam, well honestly needs to be tweaked in some way shape, or form, the only reason why Bungie has done almost nothing about it is that it is literally the only thing warlocks have in endgame besides stasis turrets. I main warlock and I'm sick of using well only because its the best super for warlocks rn and not for its actual support capabilities as a support role super, have you ever been given -blam!- for running boots of the assembler and Lumina on well before? Because I have, and it was only because I was focusing on survival in the witch queen legendary campaign over doing big -blam!- damage. If they do nerf well and honestly I -blam!- hope they do because I'm sick and tired of HAVING to run it for every piece of difficult content. Every class and every subclass should be viable for endgame content, EVERY super should have endgame viability in some way, and as soon as Bungie incorporates more aspects of gameplay that aren't shooting a -blam!- stationary damn target and giving us a series of bosses LIKE RHULK and strikes and scenarios where standing like a -blam!- tree is not the go to plan, like what it appears to be in Lightfall. I do love the super, but god DAMMIT it would be nice to actually play the game on another subclass or super. I want variety in my gameplay, not to run the same build that has been sitting there fermenting in a gamer's gym bag for 2 to 5 years ... It's like how the only thing for hunters that was viable was Tether because of Omni oculus for a good while. Buff The unpopular stuff to usable levels and then take enough of well's kneecaps in order to let it still be effective as a defensive support super, this is the same problem we had with anarchy. The same problem with Gally in d1, the same problem with self-res in d1, the same problem with Whisper of the worm, Black Hammer, Recluse + Mountaintop, Need I say more? Remember what happened when those things were nerfed? Remember what happens when ANYTHING that op in this game gets nerfed? The game flourishes, especially when Bungie finds a happy medium between all classes and subclasses.

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      • Well needs a nerf. It's too strong in endgame content and sort of trivializes it unfortunately.

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        • well is the only warlock super worth using. all the other ones are either terrible or completely outclassed by hunter and titan supers.

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        • It shouldn’t take more than four sniper shots in PVP to kill the sword.

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          • Just stop playing the game, don’t buy lightfall. I haven’t paid for anything and I’m happy. Bungie can make entire charities overnight but cannot come up with a single new enemy race in an entire 4-6 years since the scorn was released. How bad of a writing department must you have that you physically cannot come up with a single new idea besides reskinned enemies and one new enemy type per entire year of human existence

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          • Also the other super is terrible with a long cooldown

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            • They want to nerf Well? Guess I haven't seen that yet. I was just running GM Sunday, and factuals, yes, you can already get instakilled in Well if you miss a single Screeb, this does not need a nerf. Its already struggling to keep up in the highest level activities. Granted its not supposed to be like invincible level healing, its programmed to be less effective, but it does not need any more assistance. Well gets nerfed, and that would make it effectively useless across the board. This is disappointing to hear. If Bungie actually play tested supers for the highest level content, they'd realize how fragile Well already is. I'll find the read though so I can see the specifics. Kind of coming in here without much at the moment, so I don't want to overreact, but this is a very fresh observation on the current effectiveness.

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            • Edited by WillyT: 2/9/2023 4:16:20 PM
              As a Warlock main from the start, I truly don't mind a Well of Radiance nerd [b][i]IF[/i][/b] its done properly. This means two things: 1.) Well can't be crippled - it should still be a viable option, just not the end-all be-all best pick. 2.) Pretty much all the other Warlock Supers need a tuning pass, and Needlestorm (the Strand Super) needs huge single-target damage potential. If you take away Well, Warlocks are left with a mediocre burst super in Nova Bomb (what was originally the heavy-hitter of one shot supers is now significantly outperformed by just about everything else), and a bunch of horrible roamers in Daybreak, Nova Warp, and Stormtrance. Winter's Wrath is only usable because of crowd control, but the duration and lack of armor leave you better off using it for an Ager's Scepter build. I don't think I even need to touch on Chaos Reach, which is outright bad. So yea, I don't really mind them mixing up the meta, but they need to leave Warlocks with something viable. Otherwise Locks will just be wasted space in DPS phases, with those spots better occupied by Hunters or Titans.

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              • If you ask me, I don't like how well of radiance ties more damage to warlocks. I see no reason why teams wouldn't just bring 6 well warlocks for pve content.

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              • I personally use Well of Radiance because I have too, not because I want to. Let's be real a second: Bungie loves hunters, and puts up with Warlocks and Titan's You can tell purely by DPS tracking... hunters top of DPS, while Titans and Warlocks lag behind. Here's looking at you Hunter dodge/reload. Hunters get the coolest looking Exotics, with the most power squeezed into them. Proof: Gyrfalcon's Hauberk

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                • nerf results: raids must have minimum 2 warlocks now both have boots of the assembler. i warlock use healing rift for survivability other warlock use empowering rift for extra damage. well of radiance nerf will only negatively impact the game.

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                • Just my opinion, If someone needs that last little bit of healing to get them through an encounter, they need to fail until they can survive without it. Otherwise it sounds too much like "crutch".

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                  • They already touched and removed overshield because of the resillance buff. Now they nerfed resilliance.

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                  • As with most support/defensive supers they are unblalanced in pvp they SHOULD NOT be nerfed in pve because of how to perform in pvp this goes for all supers not just well

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                  • Edited by Peter: 2/8/2023 3:15:12 PM
                    You still need to understand, is not about if its good or not, is about a pleasure in nerfing Warlocks.

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                  • theyre not touching it… yet

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                  • I never use well anymore.

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                  • If they’re going to target it, odds are it’ll be about the damage bonus it provides. Not the end of the world though

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                  • Did Datto, the Titan main, complain again?

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                    • Who asked?

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                    • Congratulations, they are leaving it alone! Pc gamer is just a game journalism cite so they are required to post misinformation every day

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                      • Edited by Joulevette12: 2/8/2023 5:36:10 PM
                        If anything we need more support weapons and supers besides well and ward Lumina a great weapon to me the draw back is not having it heal the user when healing someone or getting heal on kills like crimson or make it so I can use the remnant on myself Boots of the assembler is bugged and doesn't work only 1-3 spawn and doesn't heal or empower anyone and the rift time is shorter then the basic rift timer😑

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                        • Edited by rednayeL: 2/8/2023 7:36:56 PM
                          I’ll play devils advocate here. Let’s just take for example Exodus Crash GM. You can use many combinations of classes and subclasses, but, if you use 3 warlocks using well of radiance, well the boss fight, and every other part, is a cakewalk. If you use NO well at all, and do not intend to cheese, it will be significantly harder. So many instances where well makes a super hard encounter into a joke. Realistically, using well of radiance is kind of cheesing. Then again, well won’t save you in Glassway or Lightblade, whereas invis will save you. So, every class has its cheese, titan has lorely.

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                        • Completely false, we'll is popular because it trivialize the majority of hard content in the game.

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