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Edited by Ogma: Destroyer of Worlds: 2/8/2023 11:21:35 PM
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Recent Blackburn/McAuliffe interview feedback.

“There are more ways to play than just smashing the boss.” Sorry not sorry, but this is incredibly tone deaf. Smashing the boss is how you get the LOOT….. in this LOOTer shooter, the fastest. That’s where the rewards come from. That’s the obstacle, and “smashing it” is MUCH more often than not the most efficient way to finish the activity. Yet reasonable criticism for lesser used things is met with the dismissive notion of a vocal minority being loud about it in an echo chamber. You have a system in place for raids where you can farm the boss 100+ times during the rotation week(once it’s actually in the rotation), and still not see the exotic drop. Then there’s dungeons which have no RNG safety net(focusing or crafting) like every other activity in the game, so people have to farm them WAY more than any other activity just to get a desired legendary weapon roll. What’s the best way to deal with these dated reward mechanics? Smashing the boss as quickly as possible over and over again until you get the drop. Is it really surprising that people play this way and cling to what’s best for “just smashing the boss.” Again, that yields the loot. It’s like you don’t even understand your own reward systems and how it causes people to play. We really are reverting back to the same issues where reasonable criticism is just brushed off as “you don’t know what you really want or how you really want to play” aren’t we?

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  • Bro really typed that 💀

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    • No rng protection is why I never raid, but since they did the same with dungeons in 2022, I won't be buying future dungeons either. Never got the sword or the bow, it's pointless for me to buy them. I'll just vote with my wallet and buy only what I enjoy and play. It's already insanely scummy that they include raids in expansions and not sell them seperately, when less than 20% of total players play raids. It's pathetic.

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      • Edited by Orson_Kolano: 2/8/2023 12:04:03 PM
        “There are more ways to play than just smashing the boss.” Yeah, but first you have to make a game that will allow that. You guys have S-tier lore, but F-tier storytelling, it's kinda pathetic. Any raid is basically kill ads, do some objective, dps the boss. The faster you can do it, the faster you get your loot. And that's what people gonna do. Imagine for example if the DSC raid was actually a "proper game" - you could make a Bioshock experience out of it. Atraks could have even a Sander Cohen moment... but nah, we're to lazy to do it, so smash her with 5 TCs and call it a day.

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        • Great point. This and other tone deaf responses from this company, and the state of the game caused me to not pre order light fall. They forgot the game that allows them to develop new ips, open new locations, make a Jotunn toaster (stupid), and those dumb -blam!- stuffed animals.

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        • Completely agree. I have not pre-ordered anything and talked a friend of mine into cancelling there pre-order.

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          • Ok Karen.

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          • You sound like a child who has no idea what you're talking about. The journey is not the Destination. Loot is the end. The gameplay is what matters the most.

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            • This so-called "MMO" doesn't even have world bosses to farm. Fallout 76 has three huge bosses, plus dozens of unique public events with their own bosses and rewards.

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              • I'd smash atraks with a Thundercrash

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              • I’ll be honest here, I canceled my preorder a few months ago and everything bungie is showing me is reinforcing that decision.

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                • Y'all don't make a cup of tea mid Oryx DPS?

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                • These guys have been out of touch for a very long time now. They even broke their own game when they launched vanilla D2 and it was so broken that millions left and never came back because of their out of touch behavior. Even their own main investor, Activision left this game to rot because they know even them can’t save this ailing game. Hahahahahahaha! That’s how out of touch these guys are. Game has been passed around at many different hands and lead personnel, some of which are not even real game developers, that the game doesn’t have a true identity anymore. That’s because they themselves don’t know what they’re doing. The guys who had the vision of what this game was supposed to be are long gone and no longer works here. The only identity it will leave as it’s legacy is becoming a dying cash cow being milked all the way to the grave. Hahahahahahaha! There is nothing here. Just a dressed up sugar coated cow carcass. Welcome to hollowness!

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                  • Well said. Pretty much sums my opinion on the game up. The fact that theres still no universal bad luck protection is mind blowing. And then they expect their players to 12 phase a boss while using trash loadouts that were nerfed into the ground instead of running meta and therefore getting loot way more frequently. I would really like some of that good stuff they seem to be consuming

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                    • I had a joke about smashing a boss, but it probably breaks the CoC.

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                      • If you really want to wake them up take a pass on buying the next offering and watch the change

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                        • They can try to bla bla, the only people who listen to their poop are active players. All they’ve been doing, at every single level, is guarantee that more people are not going to pre order. Once the content is out, those in doubt are going to be: huh, campaign isn’t too bad, but everything else is already broken, boring, and same as. So Bungie will add more cosmetics to make up for losses in game sales. This game looks more and more like a Vegas slot machine casino where bouncers are dressed in skirts for poor sight elders to get in, until they can’t get out.

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                          [quote]“There are more ways to play than just smashing the boss.” [/quote] That quote was in reference to exotics feeling required for certain abilities like celestial for golden gun. It was about making more things viable. [quote]"There was a long time where people that used Celestial Nighthawk were like: 'This is the way you play this class, if you aren't using that why are you even using Golden Gun?' We've gotten to a place, in recent years, where we have exotics that are like a 30% boost and you can choose to run it or not to run it. It takes some time and some thought for people to break out of the idea that the only way to play Destiny is to smash the boss as hard as possible."[/quote] They’re literally describing how they want to make more things viable and you’re complaining? [quote]Blackburn uses the example of exotic primary weapons, which were all given a whopping 40% damage buff against minor enemies, and now make power ammo drop more often, as an example of how hard it can be to change mindsets. [/quote] Oh no, they buffed exotic primaries! So tone deaf…

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                          • Here Here! Well put! My fireteam and I put time into build crafting and team synergy for dungeon and raid runs. It's engaging and really fun. Until clear 23, and the reality that , more than likley, it'll be 23 more before that lfg fill in gets the 2nd clear drop rears its head At the end of the day, its get in and get out as fast as possible to optimize loot drops. Meta guns. Meta supers . MAXIMUM 🧀.

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                            • Bump

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                            • I understand and actually somewhat agree with what they said but also if the boss is all the guards the loot and everything else is chore like then the boss is the only focus. I would like to have more to do than just smash a boss but they need to make a good reason to engage other things both loot and gameplay wise. If we got meaningful bonus loot for how much we killed or engaging with other things and those things were fun and interesting to fight then by all means I will slow down and would want things to be designed the way they mention playing the game in this interview. Until that happens though, boss is focus and that's that.

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                            • Bump, bungie makes a boring chore infested game and then gets upset because we want to get the chores done asap!! -blam!- out of touch with the reality they created!

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                              • Can’t wait to use Strand. Looks amazing 😃

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                                • I mean crucible has SBMM and a loot grind with no extra incentive for good players either

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                                  • Sounds similar to the criticism any titan gets when we suggest our subclasses are too one note.

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