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9/18/2022 8:24:43 PM
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Weapon patterns, and how Bungie caters exclusively to no-life players now.

Can you please stop gearing the game to no life players? If you need to make a special mode for people who spend their entire lives playing this game, trying to treat it like a double full time job, then certainly you can charge them individually for it. Please stop writing this game to require hundreds of hours to get simple things done. As an example, weapon patterns. Especially raid weapon patterns. The rarity that you have red bordered weapons currently set to is flat out insulting. It takes dozens of hours this season to get even a single seasonal weapon pattern unlocked. Extrapolate this to raids, and the fact you can only get one loot drop a week from raids, and it is clear you are only writing your game for streamers and youtubers now, people who treat the game like a double full time job. Even those like Gladd who try to pretend that they dont spend all of their time immersed in a small number of games are clearly spending dozens of hours more than any player with a normal life will be able to spend. This is especially horrible because your most loyal, long term players now have at least full time jobs, and families, so whe exactly do you expect any of us to have time for this stuff. The only normal people who have time for the ridiculous grind you have created in the game are childrens with no jobs. Yet, the overt -blam!- you allow in the game through what you allow many players to portray is specifically not for children with no jobs. Your game making makes no sense anymore. The last item to address here is money. Who has the money to pay for your game, year after year? Who has the money to buy silver and buy extra content? You know this is not children without jobs. You are often making the game unplayable unless people destroy their home lives, or force Destiny in as a focal point of their whole family. This is unacceptable on many levels in many ways, to expect gamers to disrupt their entire lives and orbit Bungie and Destiny. As much as I admire your obvious goals of helping to make the world a better place, you make a game. It should NOT be a dominating force in people's lives to get everything out of the game. No other good game does this. I do not think that Destiny has ever been as bad as it is now. This is not about too much content. This is about how horrible your loot drop rates are, and how long getting to things in the game takes. I did not spend $100 a year ago to have to spend 5 weeks getting a single weapon pattern. How well did that go over in year 1 of Destiny 2? I was patient through that whole mess, and gave you the benefit of the doubt that you would never again lose touch with your community that badly. Yet, here we are. You guys have convinced yourselves that you haven't done horrible things to the game by always pointing to all the things there are to do. However, it becomes pretty obvious that you are completely out of touch with the rest of the world, and are only focused on a small minority of players that spend a genuinely unhealthy amount of time in the game, unless they get extremely lucky. When will you start writing the game to fit your community at large, and stop spoiling no life players and ruining it for everyone else? There are a lot of us that have paid for a full year of content that many of us have not been able to access even half of because of what you demand in return in addition to the $100 for your game. I already got my preorder for Lightfall refunded, and will not be playing that year at all if you cannot get your stuff together and learn how to be a community game again. I am aware that is the last year of Destiny 2. Why should we reward Bungie with hundreds of millions of dollars when they expect us to work for them beyond full time to actually get to most of the content in the game? We clearly shouldn't. I am giving this warning now. Anyone trolls my post here, you just get blocked. I am not falling for the toxic devs in here that attack posts they dont like and try to start fights. I will just block you, because the people that do this always begin with harassment.

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  • Personally i’ve never really had a problem with the red border drop rates. Aren’t they supposed to be a way to guarantee a god roll over the course of time? Of course sweats can grind them out if they want, i’ve had to play a -blam!- ton of dares of eternity and still don’t have all the guns crafted that i want. Would be nice if they went back down to only 3 patterns needed instead of 5 tho. Also weird that theirs no way to guarantee a red border for the first focus of the week for this season’s weapon unless i’m just not seeing it. Especially since its required to craft multiple seasonal weapons for the seasonal seal.

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    • The fact that you keep using "no life" in a deragotory manner; invalidates every other point you tried to argue for me. I am top 1% player in PvE with over 3k hours and I have 300+ raid clears. My raid clears are abysmal compared to people who only enjoy raiding. I like GM's, they are fun. I have a family and no children. I love that people like you automatically use having children as a fallback excuse. There are tons of people with children who play Destiny. Your personality is that you just want everything handed to you, you want your participation trophy. This is not that type of game. What do you think RNG is? I play this game for short periods of time (1-3 hours) and still get the red borders you mention. It took me weeks of Vow of the Disciple to get my red border Forbearance. And guess what? A raid should not take longer than two hours at the most. If this game is not suited to you, then consider an alternative that is for people like you who "have a life." I work at 5 am and dont get home till 8 pm or later sometimes and I'm still doing better in the game than you. My job pays for those DLCS as well. You can block me, I hope you do. I really do not care.

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      • It does bother me that one person here was able to respond further to me, in a very toxic way, after I blocked them. How is that even possible?

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      • [quote]and how Bungie caters exclusively to no-life players now.[/quote] Have you played control?

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        • I play a lot when I'm on, I've had pretty decent luck getting all the patterns, even the exotic glaive ones. But I only ever got 2 retraced path patterns and that's been out for months. Not sure what that says really apart from my rng is normally good. I ain't bothered with the dares weapons so I can't comment.

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            The thing is, Weapon Crafting is a secondary system. You are suppose to get the patterns over time. That’s why they themselves are an RNG drop themselves. You are not suppose to grind for it, but if you do, why punish those players. By no means does it cater to no lives and other such people, but to make the system easier for you to get won’t solve the issue, and would Infact add more. I understand that people don’t like to take so long to get all the patterns or other such things, but it extends the life of the game much further if it were just the story. Destiny is not a single person story based game. It is a looter shooter. You shoot things and loot things. You don’t always get the best stuff right away, but you have a chance. The reason I say Weapon crafting is secondary is because you still have a chance to get a god role. Chances are you would use that god role till you get all the weapon patterns. Eventually you get the craftable weapon, and grind that so that you can get the better versions of the requested perk. The No lives who grind hours straight for it are first of all, no lives, and second of all, crazy. Of course they are going to get things before you. You don’t play nearly as much as they do. You don’t spend all the time in the world as they do. Bungie does not cater to them, but instead does not punish them for grinding ahead. These people are the same to go into a Raid Race to try and win. Do a solo GM. Solo Flawless a Dungeon. You can not say Bungie caters to them.

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          • Already two replies, two people blocked. Bungie's guy GriffinWB already said that the game needs constructive criticism and for that to be ENCOURAGED, not argued with. When the only two comments I got at first were trying to say my experience isn't valid because they had a different experience, I do believe that is doing it wrong. That is, unless GriffinWB truly was ONLY talking about people like Saltagreppo's opinion being valid, which simply proves my point, that Bungie only cares about streamers. Like I said, I am not debating my post. Any attempt to prove me wrong will be viewed as hostile and will be blocked, because this is not how the forums are supposed to address player issues with the game. I am not here to have people tell me I am not experiencing what they did. I here to talk about my experiences with the game. If you cannot respect that, and offer support, I will just block you.

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            • [quote]I am not falling for the toxic devs in here that attack posts they dont like and try to start fights.[/quote]Shouldn't you want to talk to the devs? That would get you farther than just having a discussion with powerless randoms.

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              • Edited by NotCreative123: 9/18/2022 8:33:29 PM
                I got my crafted BXR in 3 hours. There's apparently a way to target farm them

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