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9/17/2022 2:53:45 AM
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Ruffians need a rework.

It's getting aggravating to hope that the randos have common sense enough to not score when around 80 - 90% so that we can actually kill the ruffian. Either change it so the ruffian stops scoring while it's alive or remove the triumph from the seal.

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  • yeah, the don't wait for the 1 guaranteed ruffian/site. instead of 2 i get 0 kills in the activity

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  • Edited by magister1001: 9/18/2022 2:28:50 AM
    It’s poor design and not the blueberries fault. If you go in solo to ANY encounter you should expect everyone to have different objectives to yourself. Assuming they have the same objectives will just lead to disappointment. Someone else may be doing bounties or just wanting to get the expedition done quickly for the power drop or to progress the quest and are annoyed at you throwing the treasure away and slowing the encounter down. You are the idiot to them. I purely solo and get the three chests and 2-4 ruffians or lfg specifically asking for ruffians once per week per character. May have done a couple more than that and at 40. Once this is done I will most likely use matchmaking and be one of the idiots trying to rush through as I will have no interest in killing them and going slow. The crazy thing this is that there is a triumph (not for seal) to get 250 champion kills on expedition. I’m a bit of a completionist but will sit this one out unless they add some higher difficulty version later in the season that has many champions. Basically ruffians are the only champions you get although occasionally an overload spawns when you move that treasure thing. Currently 0.01% of Braytech community have done this. (0.5% or 50 times more have a flawless KF and 1.36% have a day one KF). Anyway it is poor design so use the tools you have to not be frustrated. Doubt it will get fixed.

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    • it should never have been released like this, how many times has bungie put in a system, where players have to compete against each other in a pve environment over and over again before they actually play test things!!!!!

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    • Edited by Illuminary: 9/17/2022 12:44:59 PM
      People are going to tell you there is a percentage the ruffians spawn but it is time based. You can take a premade in the ruffian will come about three minutes after you start each drill. I'm on PC so I can run solo script but I usually go in there and level shaped weapons waiting around. Drill one activated - three minutes ruffian comes (also possible bonus one) Drill two activated - three minutes ruffian comes.

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      • Its not randos fault that Bungie created a horribly stupid, brain dead way to have specific enemies spawn. People want to get in and get out.

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        • I don't doubt there are still some people who don't know how the Ruffian spawns trigger. But there are still plenty of people who want to get from point A to point B as fast as possible and don't really care if you need them for the seal. Ultimately, just like many other things, this is Bungie's fault. After years of watching people not play into the greater good, they really knew not everyone would play nice on this.

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          • The fact that I've matched in with people sabotaging the event in order to get Ruffian kills shows how poorly designed this Triumph is.

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              Why are people so damn stupid? - old

              Yah have a whole season to do it. If yah wanna blitz through it than get a fireteam. Either way it's on you

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              • People don’t know or care to stop throwing orbs because the weekly goal is to throw orbs and most people are probably trying get it over with as fast as possible. 4 or 5 runs of Expedition per week per character is torture, and it’s not even for a pinnacle. Probably best way for ruffians is a fireteam.

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              • I'm just there for plundered energy. If you can't kill the ruffian fast enough that's on you

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                • Lfg "Ruffians farm". It is a bad solution, but works. Then, as a fireteam (and not matchmaked blueberries) you can play slow and progress after the ruffian(s) spawn. Still, it's a very dumb way to play against the game to get the objective on the triumph.

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                • Yeah its a pretty bad design tbh Im only playing expedition with friends so we can efficiently farm ruffians. But i can imagine how impossible it is to do through matchmaking

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                • A Ruffian spawns between 50-60% then again between 80-88% per collection phase. You will need to stop throwing treasure orbs into the machine at those percentages. It will take a bit for the Ruffian to spawn. You can get up to 4 ruffians per run this way. It’s a proven method with me and my clan. You just need to get the blueberries in the chat channel to tell them.

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                  • It's no one's fault but Bungie.

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                  • Set your console clock into the future and solo them. They spawn at 3:00 and 7:00 in the start

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                    • There is a lot of nonsense in here. Afaik the ruffians spawn on some sort of timer. Trying to get your team to not collect treasure too quickly to even see them is a huge challenge. I'm probably getting reported for chucking treasure away. It's AWFUL design and it's been an issue forever. Players shouldn't have incentive to make the game worse for their team. It's like the gambit mote bounty problem but so much worse.

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                    • 110 percent agree. The amount of idiots who just blow past them and rush the encounter are so damn frustrating.

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                      • It will be fixed a week before the season ends but BETTER FIX THAT TREASURE THROW SPAM ASAP!

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                        • Dont understand why? Literally do two expeditions a day for like a week with a fireteam and go slow and you'll be done. Ive been soloing and smashing through and Im at 12 because you can still get them while going fast. Plus the season still has A LOT of time left, we haven't even had festival yet. Take it easy man.

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                        • Poorly implemented challenge. These guys should spawn with the group that stops the drill, that way you have to kill them to continue. Or, failing that, have progress halted whenever he's running around. I ended up getting mine done solo because blueberries are dumb.

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                          • They just need to drastically reduce the number. Maybe 20.

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                          • Agreed - shouldn't have to wait a minute for the damn thing to spawn in, but I also hold responsibility to these Blue's that ruin it for everyone else.

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                          • Throw them off the map or super far. Most Ive gotten to spawn is 3 in one go. Sure the blueberry look at ya funny start shooting you or out right leave. But who cares they are blueberrys and new lights & [b]YOUR AN ACHIEVEMENT GREMLIN[/b] assert your dominance good sir.

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                          • Bungie will fix it with one week left in the season. This is the way.

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                            • Wow I knew I haven't done much ketchcrash but I don't even know what the ruffians are. Guess I'm likely one of those idiots that blows past them anytime I run one 🤷

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