[quote]Why should they have fun and ruin the better players experience.[/quote]
Because they are the majority playing this game?
Its simple logic. Will you cater your game to the top 10% or to the remaining 90% of players?
[quote]This is the only community where players don't want to improve and want the dev team to spoon feed everything to them[/quote]
I became good in Destiny 1 because of SBMM. I improved tier by tier, like rank players do in Overwatch and other rank list games. I also became good in games like Halo by playing equal opponents.
As someone so perfectly put it in another topic on this forum, "you can't improve in chess as a beginner while playing against a world champion at chess". What you expect from some new players at this game is "go learn E=mc² without any help". I am teaching right now one of my school friends (who was one of our best graduates in school) how to play Destiny 2 and he can't even master Titan jumps yet on a PC keyboard despite their simplicity.
And you expect players to get better by facing the toughest opponents out there? That's like telling a new recruited soldier to defeat an elite soldier with years of experience... With a knife only!
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It’s so funny when I see people say the majority of the playerbase is casual lol like you realize you’re actually supporting cbmm arguments with that statement? If 90% of the playerbase is casual that means you were hardly if ever going against good players with cbmm on.
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Theres definitely more than just a minority complaining about SBMM and quitter penalties in a casual playlist lol. They're not exactly dedicating this to anyone. Theres other ways around protecting new players such as having a separate pool for people under a certain seasonal KD or under a certain amount of hours played (just to throw a few potential ideas out there) And you got better because you put the effort into it..Not because of SBMM. It's like during CoD MW/MW2 and BO/BO2 - I got better because I put the effort into it after getting slapped around by players with 2+ KD. By the time BO2 released I had gone from having a 0.90 to 1.70+. Those games didn't have SBMM except for BO2's ranked playlist.. these things actually made so much sense back then tbh. The issue with the Destiny community is they want things to remain as easy as possible only to still ignore the playlist or just not play it at all, and to just be rewarded with end game loot without putting any effort into improving themselves.
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Edited by Talia Sendua: 9/13/2022 9:59:13 PM[quote]Theres other ways around protecting new players such as having a separate pool for people under a certain seasonal KD or under a certain amount of hours played (just to throw a few potential ideas out there)[/quote] That might be an option but also removes potential players from your general playlist playerbase. It encourages skill creep. Also, having it tied to seasonal K/D will result in a clusterf*** of problems every season beginning because the season K/D got reset. Which means every season starts with the same CBMM BS we had before. [quote]Those games didn't have SBMM except for BO2's ranked playlist.. these things actually made so much sense back then tbh.[/quote] Thing is, you probably played those games when you were a teenager or even a child, meaning you had A LOT more time to play them. Sorry, but not every player should spend as much hours as I did in pvp just to get a fair experience to play. If I would have to get good at football first within a club just to have fun while playing, I wouldn't even start to bother joining the club in the first place. [quote]The issue with the Destiny community is they want things to remain as easy as possible only to still ignore the playlist or just not play it at all[/quote] Ironic, considering the OP is complaining about exactly that... That control feels hard for him and he doesn't get easy wins anymore.
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You can’t compare Destiny to Halo or Overwatch. Destiny is not a competitive shooter and never will be. If it were, I could see why SBMM could be a good option. But it’s not.
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That's why you can't understand anything, you just not able to. Its not about competitive or stupid "cyber sport", it's about fair matchmaking. You want to know how unfair matchmaking feels? Go into bar by evening or night, peek any man who weight on 100lbs bigger then you, come to him and call him by harsh words and see what happens. That will be CBMM for you.
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Tell me English isn't your first language.
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Comparing a game to a real life scenario with actual consequences is not the way to get your point across.
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Awww a little noob crying :)
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[quote]Destiny is not a competitive shooter and never will be.[/quote] So, don't expect people to be competitive in CBMM. They want fun and a fair chance, not unfun random matches.
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So only fun matches for the people who didn’t put time into pvp? Got it.
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Yeah. Or do you want to play some football with strangers and get told "train 100h+ and it might get good"?
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Show me 3 matches In a row on destiny tracker where you went against “sweats” I’ll wait.
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I don't have to prove anything to you.
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ok so you’re wrong, got it. You cant present me any facts whatsoever lol
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Think whatever you want. It doesn't matter. Only a child would care so much for proof in an online argument.
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Interesting