[quote]Bungie i'm sorry i have a 1.8 k/d and i'm apparently the problem in pvp for everybody but congrats, problem solved: i quit pvp, this sucks.[/quote]
If you are on 1.8 K/D and complain about facing equal opponents, then it tells also a lot about you as a player. You seem to like easy wins where only you and a few selected have fun while everyone else has the worst day one can have in crucible.
Tell me, what makes you MORE IMPORTANT than the others? Sounds like you are also arrogant.
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The second SBMM gets removed all the skillful players are gonna flood back so much better than ever before. High skilled people don't care they usually scrim against other high skilled people. Now it's all the time. All that bungie is doing with SBMM is making the higher skilled get way better at the game and making low skilled people suck even more because they won't be punished for bad play and won't recognize it as bad play.
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[quote]making low skilled people suck even more because they won't be punished for bad play and won't recognize it as bad play.[/quote] Ok, who the F cares man? People play this game to have fun, not to get better at playing it.
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Why should you be priviliged to face the same trash players like you while good players actually had to get good to get where they are at right now?
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Ok, let us follow your logic. Why don't you go cook your food with some old-fashioned flint and steel over a small fire just like back in the stone ages? Your ancestors did that in the very first days, why should you have it any easier?
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My god you are dumber than I thought...
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Why would you call this person arrogant? It doesn’t read that way in the slightest
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Someone complaining about having to face a fair and equal opposition, demanding to have SBMM reverted to RNG CBMM matches in crucible is arrogant to me, because that person thinks about the elitist minority and himself first and the majority of players second or not at all.
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Sbmm doesn’t belong in a casual playlist. While I agree there is a place for sbmm it’s not in control. What Bungie needs to do is have a real ranked gamemode, not the absolute garbage that survival is trying to be. The sweats would live in there trust me.
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[quote][quote]Bungie i'm sorry i have a 1.8 k/d and i'm apparently the problem in pvp for everybody but congrats, problem solved: i quit pvp, this sucks.[/quote] If you are on 1.8 K/D and complain about facing equal opponents, then it tells also a lot about you as a player. You seem to like easy wins where only you and a few selected have fun while everyone else has the worst day one can have in crucible. Tell me, what makes you MORE IMPORTANT than the others? Sounds like you are also arrogant.[/quote] The same question could be pitted against everyone. What makes them more important than others? Why should they have fun and ruin the better players experience. This is the only community where players don't want to improve and want the dev team to spoon feed everything to them
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Edited by nonchalantone: 9/14/2022 3:35:31 AMSo, backing out of a match is improving? Telling casuals to "get good" but not wanting to do the same facing players of same skill? That's improving? If you and others are better, then why leave?
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It's literally not wanting to play the lag fest known as Crucible control game mode. There's no counter play when someone appears in your face out of nowhere shotguns you then continues to run into a wall and shotgun kills the rest of your team
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Feel free to quote where i said that
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And so if you want to improve? What holding you? Ohhh can't deal with players of your own skill level, isn't it strange... or maybe your skill is not that good and was obtained by being laggy in games?
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I tell you what. Others is over 90% of all people who present in game. So called elite is 10% (in a game, elite, what a joke). That why opinion of elites not matter, all what they do is find glitches in game and complain about things that was made a life of casual players little easier.
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[quote]Why should they have fun and ruin the better players experience.[/quote] Because they are the majority playing this game? Its simple logic. Will you cater your game to the top 10% or to the remaining 90% of players? [quote]This is the only community where players don't want to improve and want the dev team to spoon feed everything to them[/quote] I became good in Destiny 1 because of SBMM. I improved tier by tier, like rank players do in Overwatch and other rank list games. I also became good in games like Halo by playing equal opponents. As someone so perfectly put it in another topic on this forum, "you can't improve in chess as a beginner while playing against a world champion at chess". What you expect from some new players at this game is "go learn E=mc² without any help". I am teaching right now one of my school friends (who was one of our best graduates in school) how to play Destiny 2 and he can't even master Titan jumps yet on a PC keyboard despite their simplicity. And you expect players to get better by facing the toughest opponents out there? That's like telling a new recruited soldier to defeat an elite soldier with years of experience... With a knife only!
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It’s so funny when I see people say the majority of the playerbase is casual lol like you realize you’re actually supporting cbmm arguments with that statement? If 90% of the playerbase is casual that means you were hardly if ever going against good players with cbmm on.
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Theres definitely more than just a minority complaining about SBMM and quitter penalties in a casual playlist lol. They're not exactly dedicating this to anyone. Theres other ways around protecting new players such as having a separate pool for people under a certain seasonal KD or under a certain amount of hours played (just to throw a few potential ideas out there) And you got better because you put the effort into it..Not because of SBMM. It's like during CoD MW/MW2 and BO/BO2 - I got better because I put the effort into it after getting slapped around by players with 2+ KD. By the time BO2 released I had gone from having a 0.90 to 1.70+. Those games didn't have SBMM except for BO2's ranked playlist.. these things actually made so much sense back then tbh. The issue with the Destiny community is they want things to remain as easy as possible only to still ignore the playlist or just not play it at all, and to just be rewarded with end game loot without putting any effort into improving themselves.
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Edited by Talia Sendua: 9/13/2022 9:59:13 PM[quote]Theres other ways around protecting new players such as having a separate pool for people under a certain seasonal KD or under a certain amount of hours played (just to throw a few potential ideas out there)[/quote] That might be an option but also removes potential players from your general playlist playerbase. It encourages skill creep. Also, having it tied to seasonal K/D will result in a clusterf*** of problems every season beginning because the season K/D got reset. Which means every season starts with the same CBMM BS we had before. [quote]Those games didn't have SBMM except for BO2's ranked playlist.. these things actually made so much sense back then tbh.[/quote] Thing is, you probably played those games when you were a teenager or even a child, meaning you had A LOT more time to play them. Sorry, but not every player should spend as much hours as I did in pvp just to get a fair experience to play. If I would have to get good at football first within a club just to have fun while playing, I wouldn't even start to bother joining the club in the first place. [quote]The issue with the Destiny community is they want things to remain as easy as possible only to still ignore the playlist or just not play it at all[/quote] Ironic, considering the OP is complaining about exactly that... That control feels hard for him and he doesn't get easy wins anymore.
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You can’t compare Destiny to Halo or Overwatch. Destiny is not a competitive shooter and never will be. If it were, I could see why SBMM could be a good option. But it’s not.
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That's why you can't understand anything, you just not able to. Its not about competitive or stupid "cyber sport", it's about fair matchmaking. You want to know how unfair matchmaking feels? Go into bar by evening or night, peek any man who weight on 100lbs bigger then you, come to him and call him by harsh words and see what happens. That will be CBMM for you.
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Tell me English isn't your first language.
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Comparing a game to a real life scenario with actual consequences is not the way to get your point across.
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Awww a little noob crying :)
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[quote]Destiny is not a competitive shooter and never will be.[/quote] So, don't expect people to be competitive in CBMM. They want fun and a fair chance, not unfun random matches.