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Edited by InfernalDegree0: 3/7/2022 6:16:06 PM
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During Contest Mode, yes, you must know what to do. Most teams trying to go for the "Day 1" emblem have been in the raid for at least 12+ hours and are looking for players that have the same level of experience. If you are going for a Contest Mode clear, you need a highly coordinated fireteam that can repeatedly do the raid mechanics flawlessly while maintaining massive DPS with little to no deaths. It takes many teams hours upon hours to reach that point to even have a chance at success. If a team loses a player, they can't afford to bring someone new in and struggle for hours because the new player doesn't understand the mechanics. That's not being "toxic af", that's a team looking to complete a Contest Mode raid with players on their same skill level with their same level of dedication (meaning they consistently played the raid since it came out). Now that Contest Mode is over, try finding a team, it should be much easier, or if you are having trouble finding one, make your own team. But for the love of Deej, don't go onto the forums to complain that someone won't carry you through a Day 1 raid, makes you look desperate. Edit: Just to put things into perspective, I was in the raid Day 1 for 23 hours (about 10 hours on the final boss), slept for about 5 hours, then got on and found a team on LFG that also had 20+ hours of experience and we got the final boss completed within about 4 hours. I was able to adapt to how their fireteam worked because I had 10 hours of previous experience in the encounter. If I was doing the encounter blind, I would have never been invited to the raid to begin with, and for good reason. Given that you have 8 minutes and 38 seconds of experience in the raid, I'm not surprised you had difficulties finding a team during Contest Mode.
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  • Finally someone gets it

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  • Knowing what to do doesn’t mean you are any good. You should write, « looking for top tier players » your chances for success would increase drastically, many ordinary players kwtd. A good gamer can learn fast.

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  • You want both, and most people that are serious about getting a "Day 1" completion look for both. When I was looking for a LFG group, I was checking the stats of the people I was trying to join. I was looking for 2 things. 1) a 12+ hour raid attempt and 2) a previous Day 1 completion and/or a lot of raid experience (250+ clears). Once I found someone that met that criteria, I knew I was set and we were able to get it done. [quote]A good gamer can learn fast.[/quote] I think you are grossly underestimating the difficulty of a new raid with Contest mode. I was with a seasoned raid team going into the raid Day 1, most of which I raid with relatively frequently, we are all good players, but were unable to get the raid clear after attempting for 23 hours when we called it quits. Not only is it difficult for good players to get the raid done, there is also an incredible amount of team synergy required, which is something that is learned over hours and hours of playing. Bringing on a blind player to a "Day 1" raid is going to set you back at least a couple hours, even if they are a good gamer, and when you are against the clock, it's not worth spending time on a chance that some player will be good enough to get the raid done. After Contest Mode is gone, more than happy to raid with anyone as long as they are willing to learn.

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  • You think you are the only one going in on day 1? It wasn’t very hard to understand, you think everyone is dumb? Climb down from your pedestal dude.

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  • If it wasn't hard to understand, would you care to explain why you were in the raid for over 10 hours without a clear? This is of course not a knock on you, the World's First team took over 7 hours to complete the raid and most teams played Day 1 for nearly 24 hours without a completion (myself included), my point is that Day 1 raids are not easy, and when you have a limited amount of time, you want good players with a similar amount of skill and experience in the raid to get it done. There is a major difference between someone who understands the mechanics (because I agree, they are simple), and someone who can continuously execute the mechanics without dying and putting out maximum sustained damage to barely get the 3 phase before the boss Enrages. Any death while in Rhulk's top arena almost always led to a wipe due to a snowball effect of dying while trying to res a teammate or someone being dead during DPS, so perfection is required. The team I joined on Day 2 was a seasoned group of raiders, all of which had previous Day 1 clears, and it still took us 4 hours to complete just the boss. We all had assigned rolls and we spent our time perfecting our specific rolls so that everything worked like clockwork. If after 3 hours we swapped out one of our teammates for a "good gamer" that didn't have the same in-game experience as us, we would have spent at the very least another 3 hours to get to that point, and most likely much longer. When you boil the entire situation down, we are talking about just the first 2 days of the raid being out. There are a lot of players that genuinely enjoy the Contest Mode experience and want to complete the raid with a seasoned team. How about instead of criticizing people for wanting that challenge for 2 days, you wait for Contest Mode to be lifted to get your completion. You have 6 months until the next raid, plenty of time to get all of the completions you want.

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  • Edited by rednayeL: 3/8/2022 6:37:53 PM
    I understood it, I’m just not Gladd or one of the top tier gamers. You really don’t have much to do. I spent more time in DSC day one. I can’t stop my team from dying, and for myself, I strafed off the edge a lot in caretaker. I just want to try day one, never expected to finish it. Satisfied? Oh yeah, I checked your NF stats, cause that’s what I do most. First off, you play too much, lvl 1000 soon already? Second, you never soloed a gm, never duo either. So please, don’t come tell me how good you are. Being carried is not a skill.

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  • Edited by InfernalDegree0: 3/8/2022 8:47:32 PM
    Alright, seems like you are a bit tilted, so let's take a look at what you said line by line. [quote]I understood it, I’m just not Gladd or one of the top tier gamers. You really don’t have much to do.[/quote] You don't need to be a streamer to get a Day 1 clear, plenty of non-streamers got it done. That sounds more like an excuse than anything else. [quote]I can’t stop my team from dying[/quote] This is exactly why you want a team that "knows what to do" in Contest Mode. The more you understand the encounter and the mechanics, the less you die; the more you practice and experience the encounter with its mechanics, the less you die. That was part of my original comment that you replied to, sounds like we would agree there. [quote]and for myself, I strafed off the edge a lot in caretaker.[/quote] As did a lot of people, and a lot of good players died to similar simple mistakes. What I find best for a Day 1 raid is when you make a mistake, just own up to it and move on, no one needs to make an issue about a death or mistake every here and there, it just becomes an issue when it becomes a systemic issue (which is why you want players that "know what to do"). [quote]I just want to try day one, never expected to finish it.[/quote] And that's completely okay, that is what you want to get out of the experience. Others want a different experience by finding a team dedicated to get the completion. If you just want a team to attempt it, you are more than welcome to make your own LFG post without "KWTD". You can play Day 1 the way you want to while others can play Day 1 the way they want to. [quote]Satisfied?[/quote] I think you are assuming I was criticizing you for not having the Day 1 clear, which is far from the truth. I was just pointing out that many people do indeed want to go for a clear which means finding good players that have similar experience in the raid, meaning they "know what to do". I am satisfied, but the defense you gave was not needed. [quote]Oh yeah, I checked your NF stats, cause that’s what I do most.[/quote] What I find most interesting in all of this is that in a discussion about raids, you pivot to Nightfalls, and on top of that, you start down a path of flexing your own stats when I made no attempt to do so. In fact, I even said that I had 23 hours played Day 1 with no clear. As someone who previously stated "Climb down from your pedestal dude.", you seemed to have created your own pedestal. [quote]First off, you play too much, lvl 1000 soon already?[/quote] I think you meant lvl 100, but that's besides the point. I really like it when people make these kinds of arguments where the logic is "you play too much, so you are a no life". What is interesting is that you will later make an argument about your in game accomplishments which take time, essentially saying that those who don't play as much as you is a lesser skilled or bad player. You make it sound like you play the perfect amount of the game where if anyone players more than you, they have no life; and if someone plays less than you, they are bad. Doesn't that sound silly? Edit: I just noticed you are rank 83, which kind of proves my point. You think being rank 99 is "playing too much", but rank 83 is perfectly fine. Thanks for that :) [quote]Second, you never soloed a gm, never duo either.[/quote] Again, interesting how you pivot to telling me I am a lesser skilled player when it has no bearing on the conversation. Ad Hominem attacks are usually deployed when you don't have an actual point to make. Want to know why I have never soloed a GM? Never really had a desire to. I'd rather raid or work on getting Triumphs/Seals completed. There have been more times than I can count where I would be playing an activity to get a Powerful/Pinnacle and I would simply stop so I can go find a raid team that needs help and sherpa them through. Everyone enjoys different types of activities. You enjoy Nightfalls, I enjoy Raids. [quote]So please, don’t come tell me how good you are.[/quote] Please point to a single part of the conversation where I talked about how good I was outside of the general context of looking for good gamers for a Day 1 raid completion. You can't because I didn't. All I was saying is that it is more than understandable that people are looking for players that "know what to do" for a Day 1 clear, you even suggested that it would be better to say looking for "good gamers". I really don't want to get into a pissing match about stats because it is irrelevant to the conversation (and because I would quite literally blow your stats out of the water). If you want to go there, fine, just make sure you do your homework first. Also understand that no one in the history of Destiny has considered a Duo GM to be a flex. [quote]Being carried is not a skill.[/quote] Correct, which is why I want players in my Day 1 raid team to "know what to do", which is quite literally why I made my original comment.

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  • Edited by rednayeL: 3/10/2022 2:56:55 PM
    Look buddy, you insult me by saying I spent 10 hours on day one and didn’t finish the raid when many streamers were taking much longer to finish it. I looked you up on Destiny NF report, said you were level 900+. I didn’t read your whole text but I can see you take yourself very seriously, we call your type smartass. You need good players day one, kwtd is really not important compared to being a great gamer, in turn meaning you can understand the basics of any raid mechanics in very little time. You like being right, but you are not, no matter how you explain it. P.S. where’s your day one emblem?

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  • Again, you seem tilted, let's again go line by line so there is no confusion... [quote]Look buddy, you insult me by saying I spent 10 hours on day one and didn’t finish the raid when many streamers were taking much longer to finish it.[/quote] You clearly didn't actually read what I wrote. If you would have read the very next sentence, I said that not only was this not a "knock on you", but also saying that the very first teams to get the raid done took over 7 hours and most teams took nearly 24 hours without a completion. In a previous comment from me, I even mentioned I spent 23 hours in the raid on Day 1 without a clear. My point was clearly rhetorical and highlighting the point that Day 1 raids are difficult, even for good players. My recommendation would be to read comments in their entirety before reaching conclusions, because I clearly did not insult you, I was making a point. If I was insulting you for 10 hours without a clear, I would also be insulting myself for 23 hours without a clear, which is of course not what I did. [quote]I looked you up on Destiny NF report, said you were level 900+.[/quote] Did you look yourself up on Destiny NF report? It says you are rank 382, which both of us know is incorrect. Destiny NF report is using Season Ranks from last season, a quick bit of research would have verified this. Instead, you looked at a single piece of false information, accepted it as fact, and used that to criticize someone for "playing too much" when it has no bearing on the actual discussion we are having. [quote]I didn’t read your whole text[/quote] That is clear given the false assumptions you have made, next time, try reading the whole thing before responding. [quote]but I can see you take yourself very seriously, we call your type smartass.[/quote] I will never shy away from being called a "smartass" given my attention to detail and calling out BS when I see it. Whether or not I am a "smartass" has no bearing on the content of what I've said. It is a fact that you were incorrect to assume I was 900+ on the Season Pass this season. It is a fact that you were incorrect to assume I was insulting you on 10 hours of raid experience with no clear. Those are facts, I was right, you were wrong, simple as that. [quote]You need good players day one, kwtd is really not important compared to being a great gamer, in turn meaning you can understand the basics of any raid mechanics in very little time.[/quote] I've already explained at length that you need both (A good gamer that also "knows what to do"). Given that you have admitted to not reading my entire comments on top of you not having a successful Day 1 completion in the past, I will allow you to re-read what I previously stated. Good players still take time to perfect the execution of new raid mechanics in Contest Mode, I would say the two of us are living proof of that. [quote]You like being right[/quote] Yes [quote]but you are not, no matter how you explain it.[/quote] Incorrect, and I don't think you can properly evaluate my explanation given you admitted to not reading my comments in their entirety. [quote]P.S. where’s your day one emblem?[/quote] If you have been paying attention at all, you would know I did not complete the raid on Day 1, however, I did complete the raid on Day 2 while Contest Mode was still active, meaning I will get the "Day 1" emblem at some point over the coming weeks/months. I probably won't wear it much to be honest, don't really like how it looks, I'd rather wear one of my other Day 1 emblems that look much better IMO. All jokes aside (but seriously, I have multiple Day 1 completions), I don't do the Day 1 raid for the emblem, I do it for the experience. I really wanted the Day 1 completion, but when we decided to call it quits after 23 hours, I was still incredibly happy about having the experience. Day 1 raids only come around once or twice a year and it is genuinely the most fun I have in the game, regardless of whether or not I get the clear.

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  • You write too much, learn to summarize dude. Congrats on contest mode completion. Still, not dying and slaying out is better than kwtd. Anybody can kwtd, but not anybody has skills.

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  • Summary: You want both.

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  • Lucky you. All I could find were teams that lied about their xp and joining countless raids to only find they had replaced every member by kicking and abusing them into leaving. This “event” was so toxic I doubt I will ever play again.

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