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originally posted in: Destiny community is toxic af
3/7/2022 2:02:18 AM
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In my personal experience, if someone states KWTD or kick on their LFG post they usually don't know what to do themselves and they require others to carry them. Knowledgeable raiders are usually patient and understand LFG can sometimes mean you need to teach someone here and there and usually happy to do so. I'd rather teach someone the raid mechanics and have fun with it. That's why we're here, to have fun right?
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  • What if it isn't fun for people to teach raids and they'd prefer to just find a group of experienced players and get their loot? Do they deserve to be criticized and called elitists because that is how they have fun with the game?

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  • Tip of the hat to you sir!

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  • This absolutely. It's why I usually put stuff like "just have decent guns" or "willing to teach" on my posts rather than the classic KWTD. So long as they're capable of being there through it all to complete it, I don't care if I have to help them figure out what they're doing.

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  • Joined a team that asked and badgered me if I knew call-outs and every other mechanic. Then they said my sole job was to make call-outs. I immediately knew that they had no idea what they were doing them selves. Toxic and clueless. I immediately left.

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  • Well said

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  • You speak from the perspective of all the raiders and sherpa who put their own time to teach others and make friends. YES! the game has people as brainless as being the elitist ahole, and on the flip side, people like those who love and like to make others do the stuff which cannot be done without a group of people. Hat's off for putting the words out for those beautiful minds.

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  • agreed. Right now there is on LFG says KWTD or kick. He himself has one attempt . That is a all time classic

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  • Actual quote from an lfg post: "Must have last wish day 1 clear and kwtd" In case you're unaware, only [i]three teams[/i] cleared last wish day 1.

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  • Fun is a word alot of ppl need to remember, i was with a group yesterday who were blaming us wiping at the first encounter because of us not using the correct and official terms of the symbols. Like dude imma call Cuphead wat i see. Like God being an elitist doesn't get u to the top does it. Having fun is the whole reason why games exist but cause of the ability to earn money now through gaming has ruined games

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  • Just agree on what you're gonna call these symbols beforehand. When I raid with randoms I always discuss strategy before each encounter. Imagine doing the boss in GoS without a proper plan.

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  • Trust me I tried but they kept ignoring me and another guy's effort to try and organize a plan , it's frustrating when ppl think they're better for no reason ,this case it was with 3 PC players, i just don't understand how they put themselves in a position of superiority

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  • Then I would have simply left. If it doesn't work it doesn't work.

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  • That's wat ended up happening lol although i like to at least give it a try whenever i can

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  • So it's them who are elitists, when they are wanting to call symbols by their proper names and you are refusing and causing wipes? Makes sense.

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  • They never had issue understanding my call outs and that's the kicker. Somehow u presume it was my fault we wiped , i held my side with my call outs that much i can admit i don't need to say it to someone who wasn't there. Unless you were there stfu and read something else

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  • You said they said you were the reason they wiped

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  • I specified one if the reasons , was i the reason for every wipe no

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  • You wernt using the right symbols that all you've told us as far as it looks from here you are the problem if it's a new raid an everyone's getting used to symbols an there is an established community table for all symbols an you decided no I'm gonna use my own in an lfg full of random who are not using ur symbols then u are the problem I mean you didn't give much other info but it's a raid nor a strike ppl take it seriously especially when rn ppl are taking 6-12 hours for there first runs

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  • Apparently not having red rover send them over scarred them for life

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  • This!!! so much this! Like what happened to the days we taught people raids and made new friends? Ever since I came back for VoG I swear people either want to be carried or ex over everyone to know everything. Back in D1 my best raid experiences always came from taking newer players through the raid for the first time and then running again with them till they felt good about it.

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  • First few weeks of the raid ppl are just trying to get thru good player who kwtd can bang it out in a few hours but with new players trying to learn new mechanics without a kakis video showing them the 1 or 2 strats out rn it could take upwards of 8 hours I get why ppl want to avoid that My fave raids were ones I taught but after teaching a bunch I just want to get it done some ppl don't know what to do an refuse to learn or listen an when the entire team is wiping cuz of this guy the next lfg post will Def have kwtd

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  • Very true

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  • Agreed

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