Laugh…until XBox has a monopoly on cloud gaming, and all that comes with that power….
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I seem to recall you were one of the unfortunate souls who bought into Stadia.
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Edited by kellygreen45: 2/6/2022 10:01:15 PMYes, I was, and I don't consider myself unfortunate. I tend to be an early adopter of technology...I enjoy playing with new toys...and this comes with the territory. I knew Google has a tendency to flake on products and abandon them, and I went into this with my eyes wide open. At least it looks like the tech will be salvaged even if the commercial product was a flop. I lost less money on this than I did in HD-DVD being deep-sixed by Blu-Ray.
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[quote]I lost less money on this than I did in HD-DVD being deep-sixed by Blu-Ray.[/quote] To be fair though that seemed like a fair fight at the time. People rip on stadia but there was nothing inherently wrong with it, Google was just clueless as usual. I think also for the longest time there was a massive stigma against game streaming generally, that Microsoft helped to wear down by providing it for ‘free’ with games pass. People didn’t have to shell out hundreds of pounds to then find out their internet speed wasn’t good enough. Also Google being a non-traditional gaming tech company didn’t help. Lots of ‘new’ consoles had been tried in the recent past and almost immediately flopped. The Ouya for example, and Onlive, not even Nintendo was safe with the WiiU. I recently watched a demo video for Onlive and honestly it is pretty much what the industry is doing now, but ten years ago when nobody wanted to do it. You could stream your playing, watch other people’s streams live, record clips and share them, as well as the whole streaming of the game itself. It’s scary how ahead of its time it was.
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This is the future. Only question is how long it takes to get there. Digital delivery and streaming has eventually taken over everywhere else. The convenience is hard to deny.
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Yeah of course, the convenience of just needing an internet connection will drive it once ordinary people regularly have the connection necessary for prolonged sessions. The issue for now is how long that takes, which isn’t really in the industry’s control, they just have to keep the idea in people’s minds until that happens. It is strange to think that MS would potentially have a monopoly on it though. But they’re bound to put a foot wrong somewhere, and that gap will be filled by someone else. Seems like a logical next step for the Switch for example, but that would require mobile internet as cheap and reliable as standard wi-fi.
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People are already exploring that option. Nintendo has the advantage of name recognition, but I don't think they'll be able to corner the market on mobile gaming devices. The Steam Deck looks promising, and once again being an early adopter, I plan on giving it a try.
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Ah yes I’d forgotten the steam deck exists. That does look like a lot of fun, but I’ve never gotten into portable gaming really , I stopped playing my switch after a few months and ended up giving it to my sister although that was mainly down to my indifference to Nintendo’s game roster. I’m not much of an early adopter either, especially with games consoles. In my experience they need a year or two for bugs to be ironed out and the game roster to go above 5 exclusives and by that point I would have lost interest. In fact my purchase of a Series S was the first truly satisfying new tech purchase I’d had in a long time, and the only reason I bought that so late into its release was that it physically wasn’t available.
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Understandable. For me, it’s kind of a hobby and so I’m willing to put up with the potential losses, and other irritations that come from being an early adopter. It’s not something I recommend widely (in fact I’ve waved off some people once it became clear that Stadia was struggling). But the experience of getting in there and being among the first to try some products has value to me. Though I accept that everyone’s situation is different, and I respect that.
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[quote]Yes, I was, and I don't consider myself unfortunate. I tend to be an early adopter of technology...I enjoy playing with new toys...and this comes with the territory. I knew Google has a tendency to flake on products and abandon them, and I went into this with my eyes wide open. At least it looks like the tech will be salvaged even if the commercial product was a flop. I lost less money on this than I did in HD-DVD being deep-sixed by Blu-Ray.[/quote]
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Have you played Stadia? Yes or no.
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[quote]Yes, I was, and I don't consider myself unfortunate. I tend to be an early adopter of technology...I enjoy playing with new toys...and this comes with the territory. I knew Google has a tendency to flake on products and abandon them, and I went into this with my eyes wide open. At least it looks like the tech will be salvaged even if the commercial product was a flop. I lost less money on this than I did in HD-DVD being deep-sixed by Blu-Ray.[/quote]
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The only clowns are those who presume to tell other people how to spend money they had no part in [i]earning.[/i] Just sayin’….
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A fool and his money are soon parted.
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The only fool is the person telling someone else how to value their money. I spend more money putting gas in my car each week than I spent on Stadia in a month. I got what I wanted out of the experience. So I won’t lose any sleep over what happened.
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Edited by Sliver Greylen: 2/7/2022 8:48:45 PMHow is that person foolish for telling someone to not fall for an obvious scam? Wait… you’re saying they’re foolish because it’s inevitable that the fool will spend their money on something stupid and that it’s foolish to try to dissuade them. Gotcha!
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Edited by kellygreen45: 2/7/2022 8:57:07 PMBecause a scam assumes that the person got nothing of value in return. It is arrogant to assume that you know what that person should value, and what they should pay for that experience. Fifty dollars is pocket lint to Bill Gates. While that same amount of money may be enough to let a homeless person survive for a couple days. Who’s to tell Bill Gates that he needs to treasure that $50 like he were homeless? Who’s to tell the homeless guy that he should be a cavalier with it as a billionaire. It is presumptuous to look in someone else’s pocket and tell them how to spend their money. You presume I got taken. When the reality is nothing has happened with Stadia that I was caught by surprise with. Like I said. I’m familiar with Google’s track record. I wanted an experience, and I was willing (and can afford) to pay what it cost. It may not have been worth it to you, but my money is not your money. I got MY money’s worth from it.
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Everything was on the cloud. You did get nothing in return.
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Same with every other digital delivery system. We just buy with the faith that the platforms won’t go out of business. The amount of money is lose in digital content if Apple went under?!?!? Why do you think I emphasize that we are buying licenses, not content? This is the reality we live in unless you are still buying single player games on physical media.
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[quote]Because a scam assumes that the person got nothing of value in return. It is arrogant to assume that you know what that person should value, and what they should pay for that experience. Fifty dollars is pocket lint to Bill Gates. While that same amount of money may be enough to let a homeless person survive for a couple days. Who’s to tell Bill Gates that he needs to treasure that $50 like he were homeless? Who’s to tell the homeless guy that he should be a cavalier with it as a billionaire. It is presumptuous to look in someone else’s pocket and tell them how to spend their money. You presume I got taken. When the reality is nothing has happened with Stadia that I was caught by surprise with. Like I said. I’m familiar with Google’s track record. I wanted an experience, and I was willing (and can afford) to pay what it cost. It may not have been worth it to you, but my money is not your money. I got MY money’s worth from it.[/quote] Let’s break this down. First, a scam has nothing to do with getting something of value out of a transaction. If I said I’ll give you 2 sea shells for $10 but then only gave you one shell, you still got something of value out of it, yet it’s still a scam. A scam is easily defined as not getting what you paid for. Arrogant? Maybe. Foolish? Not at all. I’m fully aware that aliens could invade earth at any second and all of us die because of it, yet I’ll still be surprised when it happens. If I wasn’t surprised, that means it’s an expected outcome. In which case it’s no longer a gamble as there is only one end point. Willingly and knowingly promoting that to someone else is reckless and downright morally wrong. You money must be worth nothing in that case. But I digress. A fool and his money are soon parted.
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I got what I paid for. You’re not [i]Listening.[/i]
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You’re right I’m not listening. I’m too busy looking at the end result. Which is you have nothing to show for your investment. Which means you lost/got scammed.
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Edited by kellygreen45: 2/7/2022 9:14:59 PMYet utterly trapped in your own perspective. Which is not MINE, and I’m the one spending the money. You’re like the person who’s colorblind trying to convince someone with normal vision that “blue” is a scam. Because you’re assuming that just because “blue” isn’t real for you, that it can’t be for anyone else. I got what I paid for. The possibility of Stadia being a flop was considered and factored in before I spent a dime. Like I said, I paid for an experience, not a product. So WTF are you to tell me what my money is worth to me? The experience I got playing it was worth—to me—what I paid for it.
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[quote]Yet utterly trapped in your own perspective. Which is not MINE, and I’m the one spending the money. You’re like the person who’s colorblind trying to convince someone with normal vision that “blue” is a scam. Because you’re assuming that just because “blue” isn’t real for you, that it can’t be for anyone else. I got what I paid for. The possibility of Stadia being a flop was considered and factored in before I spent a dime. Like I said, I paid for an experience, not a product. So WTF are you to tell me what my money is worth to me? The experience I got playing it was worth—to me—what I paid for it.[/quote] That’s simply incorrect. You have a false equivalency because there’s not a single color that is a “scam”, yet there are many products people buy that are scams. You can factor stadia possibly being a flop and still have it be a scam, similar to a person giving their credit card to a stereotypical scammer online factoring in that it MIGHT be a scam. It doesn’t change the fact that it wasn’t the experience it PROMISED it was. You may be ok with the outcome but that doesn’t mean it wasn’t a scam. Proof of that is in the one shell two shell bit I said earlier. Just because you think “oh, one shell is good enough” it doesn’t mean you weren’t promised 2.
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I always find the ones who can’t take a hint…. What you are doing right now is INCREDIBLY RUDE, and disrespectful in polite company. You have also exhausted my considerable patience. So now I’m just going to embarrass you. The amount of money that I spent and lost on Stadia is pocket change for me. The two years of sub fees, and the hand full of games that I bought are simply not an amount of money that I’m going to stress over. I tried to be polite. I tried to get you to stop being a jerk and let it go. But you just had to be right and get that win. So now I’m just going to reveal who the fool actually has been this whole time. When I said that I wasn’t going to lose any sleep over this, I meant it.
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The fool is still you bud. Pocket change or not you’re still less rich than you could have been if you had used that money literally anywhere else. And you still got scammed. In case you didn’t figure that out already.