This post has 100 upvotes? Seriously guys are you even reading what he’s saying or just upvoting the “D2 bad” post of the week? There’s no way anyone actually agreed with the concept of “F2P is the cause of the RNG loot grind.” The rng drops aren’t even a bad thing nor has anything to do with the game being F2P. Most of the things OP blames on F2P makes 0 sense.
Like sure have your complaints, but holy hell dudes read them to make sure they make sense. You might as well tell bungie you want to go back to Y1 static rolls if you’re upvoting this.
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its an achievement to have any votes at all the admins around here run this like a prison the minor complaint gets down blasted XD
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I’m fairly certain the whole point of the Post was just a general, if albeit incoherent, sentiment of disdain for the predatory and blatantly infantilizing treatment bungie gives out. Many people are kinda sick of it and it’s why folks like me haven’t played in months. We are fans of 1 and even 2 but current bungie insist on making everything worse and degrading the games quality. All while trying to pass their sloppy work as the norm.
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Yeah and he’s still talking about sunsetting 😂 plus when has there been a “year long season”?
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Exaggeration of Lost
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So there’s one 6 month season and you complain about “year long seasons”? You’re right, it’s an exaggeration, and one that is extreme to the point that it’s nonsense to say
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Who’s op?
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That’d be you.
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Yeah I looked it up, original poster, I’m kinda dumb
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Lol we got a grandpa in here
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Lol, I’ve disagreed with everything you said but this is actually funny.
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You. OP=original post (or poster)
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TheShadowBungie is no more... - old
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And exactly which part do you think I’m missing?
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TheShadowBungie is no more... - old
I'm not here to tell you what is actually obvious. Trying to bait me into a dumb conversation that over 100 people do disagree with you. That says a hell of a lot right there, and it is all I need to know. -
Edited by GanjaLordGenji: 11/28/2021 8:57:42 PMI mean no one else has been willing to explain or even claim how rng loot grind is remotely tied to the game being F2P. Since you claimed I was wrong I assumed you had the answer but I guess not. But you’re the only one who’s disagreed with me. The 100 people just “agreed” with OP and like I said I doubt many of them actually read the post before liking it because a lot of his points have nothing to do with the game being F2P. And trust me I don’t want to have a conversation with you either. I’ve seen your posts and I know it would be a waste of my time. The difference is if I don’t want to be “baited into a dumb conversation” I just don’t reply to the post. Especially not with some halfassed reply like “you’re wrong but I’m not gonna tell you why.”
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Shadow explained perfectly what this post was.
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He just said “that’s not what he said” he never explained anything, he quite literally refused to explain in the next comment. You’re the OP and you won’t even explain it. You both just make dismissive comments that do nothing to actually answer my question: wtf does rng have to do with the game being F2P?
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I can feed you baby-bird How RNG **can** be tied to F2P: Speculation inbound Nobody knows what the odds are for Destiny RNG or if it is even "Random" (I know I know there has not and may never be a truly random number generator programable but stick with me for a sec). So you have this influx of freeloaders (joking) that has limited access to parts of the game. And you have paid players with full access. Now, lets stick within the F2P areas. Where is the incentive, financially, to generate even odds across the game as a whole? If F2P has just as good odds as paid, the F2P player has no incentive to buy the game. So, for instance, one of the reasons that the Vex Mythoclast has such a terrible drop rate is because it is a F2P arena, thus encouraging the hamster wheel grind. The more a player grinds, the more likely they will be willing to fork over the cash for the full game. And lets not forget that PvP is F2P (minus trials but thats a recent thing) and the VM is broken in pvp. Now, if a player actually scores the VM on a F2P acct, they are going to want to use it in other areas of the game, also incentivizing purchases. BUT! Before you say "They should give out the VM more frequently if thats the case" you gotta remember the paid players and the incessant grind Bungie loves so much. Coupled with an activity without a paywall. And they already have the paid players money so gotta keep them grinding too. Anyway, that is ONE way F2P can affect RNG
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i don't know y ether i think maybe people have gotten a little greedy on exodic drops but i dont knew y f2p is the problem or the delays those happen because the lack of studios and the pandemic
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I agree that sunsetting, rng loot grind, and content vaulting are not a result of F2P. But the amount of predatory monetization bungie has in this game is absolutely ridiculous. The game isn’t even really F2P. Most players who enjoy the game have to pay for an $80 expansion every year, on top of the annual pass.
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Edited by GanjaLordGenji: 11/28/2021 6:54:17 PMI’m fine if people want to complain about the F2P title or the eververse store practices, but this isn’t the post to do it on. OP literally thinks the rng loot grind has anything to do with it being an F2P game. That’s not where I’d be throwing my upvotes. But I think you’re mistaken, $80 is for the expansions+annual pass, the expansions alone are $40. At least in the US.
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Yeah I don’t know why this of all post got upvotes. Bungie is stated many times on why they have to do content vaulting. Year 1 D2 didn’t have RNG loot grind and that was a terrible idea and practically killed the player base. I do think that pinnacles system is not great and should respect players time by distributing to the slot that is lowest light level.
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The forums is full of terrible player and peoples that don't play and just cry everyday Destiny has 1 of the best and most fair cash shop He's complaining about RNG grind in a looter shooter😂 The term free to play for destiny is wrong...if you were to only get the free version you have nothing to do...its more of free trial,and the fact they added that didn't affect the game at all....the game always was season based(we are just calling them that now and we getting additional stuff from a pass)it literally got better than before Peoples like to cry and complain without thinking....post like that might get up votes but bungie aren't blind....they don't n listen to these