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originally posted in: D2 should never have gone F2P.
Edited by TheShadow: 11/29/2021 11:52:32 PM
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Bungie went to "f2p" because they knew they couldn't keep a player base without Activision. Having a full-price game with the lack of talent, creativity, and unwilling to put the resources into this game, Destiny would of been dead. The new light system is the only reason the game has survived. Especially since how they've been handling this game on their own... After reading the replies to the OP, it's clear how lost a lot of the community actually is by showing they don't know how to read. For example, where did the OP say Eververse has anything to do with why the game went to F2p or the RNG was the cause? Oh, and I really like this one. Somone saying there are only so many days in a season when the OP said (seasons.) If you guys knew how to read, the OP was saying what they didn't like, not why things happened. Holy crap people 🤦‍♂️
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  • Edited by FacelessBot: 12/1/2021 4:16:35 AM
    Yeah okay, let’s pretend Bungie isnt* actively hiring for the past year and is bragging about how the team working on Destiny has doubled in several departments

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    Do you mean how a business will say things to make things sound good?

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  • Edited by FacelessBot: 11/29/2021 11:50:13 PM
    Bruh they are literally hiring and literally have more people working for them, these two things aren’t* even debatable

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  • Edited by TheShadow: 11/29/2021 11:55:33 PM
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    They might be hiring, but you guys and Bungie sure as hell stretch the truth. It's actually funny. "They doubled their employees", yet the same results have been happening for almost 2 years now 😂

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  • Musta missed the amount of sandbox patches we’ve had this year, a few of them having major changes as well & the increasing pve & pvp separate changes happening. But OK SURE

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  • Edited by TheShadow: 11/30/2021 12:04:13 AM
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    [quote]Musta missed the amount of sandbox patches we’ve had this year, a few of them having major changes as well & the increasing pve & pvp separate changes happening. But OK SURE[/quote] As if that means anything, but I can give you a thumbs up for the effort 👍 Oh, where are the new PvP maps knowing it's been 2 years, and that is only PvP?

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  • [quote] As if that means anything, but I can give you a thumbs up for the effort 👍 Oh, where are the new PvP maps knowing it's been 2 years, and that is only PvP?[/quote] 1. Changing the topic because you know you were wrong 2. Obviously the balance of the sandbox matters 4/head, if not we’d still only see stasis in crucible - one of the biggest sandbox changes ever is happening very soon as well 3. Trials rework has been largely successful, y’know pvp content (although imo week1 was best) 4. They already talked about maps, which we are getting some in the year of witch queen along with the rift game mode. With even more content, 2 raids & dungeons. Not including the 30th anniversary dungeon & 6 player activity. You gotta keep up

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  • Edited by TheShadow: 11/30/2021 12:29:55 AM
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    1. False, and not a single person has proved me wrong. It is funny watching you guys attempt to do so 👍 2. That is a totally separate team that makes adjustments that can take place any time as Bungie sees fit. Usually, after they sold their DLC, you know, sounding good to make sure they make that sale 😉 3. 🤣🤣🤣😂 How are those players resetting cards working out there bud? And they paid carries, account recoveries, matchmaking, cheaters, the ole so special P2P? I'm sure a lot of players are having a blast 😂 4. Yeah, like 1 or 2 maps if you are lucky, and the rest of the maps if there are more than 2 will be maps that have already been used. As far as the rest, it's the basic same content you have been getting for 4 years now, with the added bonus of Bungie asking you to pay for the content we already paid for or have been playing the last 4 years. Dude, you didn't help yourself posting what you did one bit.

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  • Edited by FacelessBot: 11/30/2021 12:36:56 AM
    1. False, and not a single person has proved me wrong. It is funny watching you guys attempt to do so 👍 - I said their team has increased in size and ifs hiring, you tried to say it was a lie, which it isn’t. Meaning you were wrong 2. That is a totally separate team that making adjustments can take place any time as Bungie sees fit. usually, after they sold their DLC, you know, sound good to make sure they make that sale 😉 - Um no, they are updates to the game which are occurring more frequently due to the increase of team size and updates made in beyond light, proving my point yet again 3. 🤣🤣🤣😂 How are those players resetting cards working out there bud? - considering Bungie confirmed less than 1% of people do that and I’ve been flawless 20x this season (including a solo card), it’s not a real issue. Week 1 was the best anyways, when there was no flawless pool. 4. Yeah, like 1 or 2 maps if you are lucky, and the rest of the maps if there are more than 2 will be maps that have already been used. As far as the rest, it's the basic same content you have been getting for 4 years now, with the added bonus of Bungie asking you to pay for content we already paid for or have been playing the last 4 years. - let’s see New: witch queen (raid, campaign/hardmode campaign, quests, exotics, 2 playable zones) 3 new dungeons (including anniversary) at least 1 confirmed 6 man activity (don’t know about seasons) min 1 pvp map, 4 seasonal activities Old: one reprised raid, min 2 pvp maps [b]You really don’t like to pay attention huh? [/b] Also nice troll account

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  • Edited by TheShadow: 11/30/2021 12:49:33 AM
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    [quote]- (I said their team has increased in size and ifs hiring), you tried to say it was a lie, which it isn’t. Meaning you were wrong.[/quote] Correction, talking about not paying attention. This is what you actually said in the (quote below.) So at least try to back up your own words. I only said you and Bungie are stretching the truth, meaning not the amount you and the rest of the players are exaggerating about. Where did I try to say it was a lie? Make things up much? [quote]Yeah okay, let’s pretend Bungie is actively hiring for the past year and is bragging [b] about how the team working on (Destiny has doubled in several departments.)[/b][/quote] Exaggerate, and try to mislead much? Should I keep showing the truth by tearing down the rest of your reply, or have you had enough?

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  • [quote][quote]- (I said their team has increased in size and ifs hiring), you tried to say it was a lie, which it isn’t. Meaning you were wrong.[/quote] Correction, talking about not paying attention. This is what you actually said in the (quote below.) So at least try to back up your own words. I only said you and Bungie are stretching the truth, meaning not the amount you and the rest of the players are exaggerating about. Where did I try to say it was a lie? Make things up much? [quote]Yeah okay, let’s pretend Bungie is actively hiring for the past year and is bragging [b] about how the team working on (Destiny has doubled in several departments.)[/b][/quote] Exaggerate, and try to mislead much? Should I keep showing the truth by tearing down the rest of your reply, or have you had enough?[/quote] It’s not an exaggeration, Bungie has litteraly said that so maybe [b]pay attention [/b]

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    [quote]It’s not an exaggeration, Bungie has litteraly said that so maybe pay attention[/quote] Oh, becase Bungie "said so". Yeah, actions speak louder than words bud, and when I see that actions applied to this game, then I'll have a second look. I can't even belives people buy into a business word when a lot of the time their actions show otherwise. That's actually scary... Nice try though 👍

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  • [quote][quote]It’s not an exaggeration, Bungie has litteraly said that so maybe pay attention[/quote] Oh, becase Bungie "said so". Yeah, actions speak louder than words bud, and when I see that actions applied to this game, then I'll have a second look. I can't even belives people buy into a business word when a lot of the time their actions show otherwise. That's actually scary... Nice try though 👍[/quote] Actions do speak louder than words, because [b]THEY ARE LITERALLY COBSTANTLY HIRING AND HAVE LITERALLY INCREASED THEIR AMOUNT OF EMPLOYEES [/b] Bruh the fact that you believe some conspiracy the Bungie is pretending to hire people is what’s really frightening wtf

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    As if typing in bold changed anything 🤣🤣🤣😂 Dude, you are the type of person is why companies take advantage of their player base. I'm sure you believe everything a business says to you that only looks at you as a number, WoW!

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  • Bruh you can literally look up online and see that their employee numbers have gone up You believe in some weird conspiracy theory that has no evidence and there is clear evidence that disapproves it that is readily available. The bolds & caps is because you obviously don’t read and just ignore facts. Again nice troll account

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    Dude, you just told me you are one of these people that say, "well, the net said it, so it must be true", and I didn't think things would get much worse. Guess what? [spoiler]You proved me wrong 👍[/spoiler] News flash! Bungie hasn't in 30 years and never will give the exact amount of employees. Everything on the net (has literally been speculation.) it's only "word of mouth". Now, they may have hired people, but no one knows how many in spite of the numbers going up or not. I'll just level this here.

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  • [quote]Dude, you just told me you are one of these people that say, "well, the net said it, so it must be true", and I didn't think things would get much worse. Guess what? [spoiler]You proved me wrong 👍[/spoiler] News flash! Bungie hasn't in 30 years and never will give the exact amount of employees. Everything on the net (has literally been speculation.) it's only "word of mouth". Now, they may have hired people, but no one knows how many in spite of the numbers going up or not. I'll just level this here.[/quote] There are plenty of places to easily see the size of the company, not to mention they added what two two locations across the US, oh yeah they are definitely not hiring You’re probably a flat earther at this point. Obvious troll account is obvious See you in witch queen when you’re still complaining non stop and still playing :)

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  • Pretty bold assumption to think the game would die if it didn't go F2P. Its a no brainer Bungie made some of the game free to play as its the best way to attract more customers to an MMO-esque game. WoW has their level 20 trial, FF14 or w/e has some free trial thing as well. Best way to get people interested in playing a game for the long haul is to give them a taste, though the new light system is complete garbage it made their introduction of the game to new players a little easier without having an upfront $40-60 price just to play some base content. Bungie is going more in on Destiny than ever post Shadowkeep which is good news for the game. Destiny suffered mainly due to a lack of shared vision with it being pulled in many different directions but with them being able to plan out what they are releasing years from now? It shows they have finally decided on what they want Destiny to be.

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  • Edited by TheShadow: 11/29/2021 2:17:04 AM
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    [quote]Pretty bold assumption to think the game would die if it didn't go F2P.[/quote] [quote] though the new light system is complete garbage [/quote] [quote] Destiny suffered mainly due to a lack of shared vision with it being pulled in many different directions[/quote] Maybe think before making a reply. You just prove my point 👍 Edit: Just for the hell of it, let's actually look at the facts here. 1. The game doesn't have an identity and it's 4+ years into the game. 2. There is no campaign anymore. 3. the loot system is broken. 4. They are using an outdated engine that has major issues, and an outdated P2P. 5. As you said, the game suffers from being pulled in many different directions. 6. The lack of creativity 7. The lack of manpower/resources put into the game. Should I go on how broken this game actually is just throwing in whatever and calling it a game???

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  • Nope no facts in that everything you've stated is subjective.

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    [quote]Nope no facts in that everything you've stated is subjective.[/quote] 😂 Yeah, why don't you make a post how updated just the P2P is in this game and show me how most wouldn't laugh at you 👍 Go on, I'll wait.

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  • Ok give me your source.

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  • Edited by TheShadow: 11/29/2021 5:01:03 PM
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    [quote]Ok give me your source.[/quote] 🤣🤣🤣😂 Thought so...

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  • Also full , creativity and talent .

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  • Lack , unwilling and dead are subjective words .

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