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Edited by l HyperLethal l: 9/2/2021 5:55:59 PM
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Edit: I talked op and I genuinely feel like he/she means no harm so don't be hateful towards them. Sometimes things may appear to be a certain way then end up to be something else entirely. I assume this is a troll post but honestly? I don't know for sure. Regardless, this doesn't mean I have any ill will towards these topics or want people to harass this person. So, don't. The last thing I want to do is promote harassment or set any harmful precedents.
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  • Do you really think I would divulge so much of my time into finding resources to share and deal with contemptuous comments like this if I was simply trolling? I'm here to find valid intrest in the conversation at hand. If people didn't like the title they didn't have to comment on it, that was my point. Regardless of what I did or did not put in the title I would still get the same comments. I've made a thread about Saint and Osiris before with a completely different angle of approach and it was still met with the same kind of lunacy and infantilism that I see here. It doesn't matter what I do to keep people out, they're much like fleas and mosquitos and always find their ways into places they don't belong. Rather than see it as some kind of "troll" perhaps consider that the end statement was to give the general idea of what the contents held and as to make it seem more approachable to those who would normally feel excluded in the normal topics. See it however you want but at the end of the day I know my intentions and you and every other person saying what they will can only guess. I'm not here to stop you or anyone else but I do find it funny how most of the people who have commented all feel so mad about nothing. It's the equivalent of showing up to a black and white attire affair and dressing in red. But, then again, people are always quick to show their true colors when it comes to things that make them uncomfortable.

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  • Edited by l HyperLethal l: 9/1/2021 1:54:20 PM
    Really? I'm uncomfortable? Well, yes and no. See, I have no problem with anyone for being who they are. They a right to live how they want. What I do take an issue with is that title. If you aren't trolling, I apologize but you kinda brought some of this ire upon yourself. I mean just don't understand the purpose of stating "LGBTQ only" Perhaps theres context I'm missing? My true colors remain to be seen. I don't like doubling down on senstive topic like this. I want to understand where this is coming from.

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  • I've said this in a few other replies but I assume that it's just something that most people don't understand, which is fair enough. But I consider an ally anyone who is not directly opposed to the LGBT lifestyle. Since the word -blam!- gets censored I can't exact put it in the title. Honestly with the amount of responses that I've gotten strictly about the title and nothing else regarding this post I know very few, if any, of them read the actual post. In some of the other replies I've linked sources, quoted lore books with links to their contents, but I realize that no one here really cares about the story or characters of this game. The majority of these responses sadly remind me of the meme tweet of the bird that simply says "am uncomfortable when things not about me." Honestly that's the LGBT expirence though, no one is ever happy that they get representation always boiling it down to political or clout gains, it's exhausting, but sadly something I feel a lot of minorities have gotten used to.

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  • I completely understand what you mean. We've entered a stage where people are taught to be afraid of seeing representation in mainstream mediums because of people like TheQuartering, YellowFlash2, ThatUmbrellaGuy. It's all a game when it comes to social issues. And I'm getting pretty sick of it.

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  • It is rather odd, like asking for trouble. Here's a big red button, do not press!

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  • Because he or she didn’t want to deal with posts like yours….

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  • Edited by l HyperLethal l: 8/31/2021 4:11:16 PM
    You really think no one would do this to give members of the LGBTQ community a bad rap? I' ve seen it happen. Edit: And before you go get mad, just ask yourself. Why would I include the LGBTQ only in my title? How would I even enforce this? Don't be stupid kelly. I've seen how people treat the LGBTQ community on Destiny and it ain't nice. They'll without a doubt use this post as justification for their own fear and bigotry.

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  • I don’t see a problem with it. I understand the feelings. Until very recently many African-American characters were marginalized or killed off because writers either didn’t like them or were uncomfortable writing for them. A lot of the drama that followed Star Trek: Voyager centered around having a diverse cast that the writers were “uncomfortable” writing for. Don’t kid yourself thinking that minority viewers and viewers from other marginalized groups don’t notice when characters like themselves are reduced to cartoons and other unrealistic portrayals.

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  • [quote]I don’t see a problem with it. I understand the feelings. Until very recently many African-American characters were marginalized or killed off because writers either didn’t like them or were uncomfortable writing for them. A lot of the drama that followed Star Trek: Voyager centered around having a diverse cast that the writers were “uncomfortable” writing for. Don’t kid yourself thinking that minority viewers and viewers from other marginalized groups don’t notice when characters like themselves are reduced to cartoons and other unrealistic portrayals.[/quote] You don't have to tell me that. I'm black lol. I wasn't speaking on Osiris being gay. I mean the literal "LGBTQ only" part. I'm trying to let people know about how the right wing likes taking things out of context and spinning into something completely different.

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  • Edited by kellygreen45: 8/31/2021 4:26:05 PM
    Unsympathetic ears will always do that. That anger isn’t about genuine offense or principled objection. You didn’t cause it, you can’t control it, and you can’t cure it. Like Savathun’s lies and gaslighting, just keep it out of your head, and live your life.

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  • Not unsympathetic. Just plain hateful mindset. But what else is knew with d2?

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  • Edited by kellygreen45: 8/31/2021 4:41:23 PM
    People, places and things only have the power over you that you give them. Never let someone else’s character flaws keep you from speaking and living your truth. Never let those flaws keep you from supporting someone else living and speaking theirs.

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  • He's right, it was inviting trolling and actual hate to the thread. It was also very non inclusive...exclusive you might even say. Why not say something like "keep it civil please"? Should we start to expect the chuds to start making "No lgbt or lgbt allies" posts? This is a slippery slope and is asking for opposition parties to attack you. [quote]People, places and things only have the power over you that you give them.[/quote]Ironic seeing as you were just saying mean words hurt lgbt communities. Are they so fragile? Should I tell my sister and her wife they need to be weaker willed and cry about things more? She was telling me recently that it pissing her off how people want to coddle her and treat her like the special golden child just for being gay lately and has distanced herself from the "lgbt community" because she feels it isn't actually about being gay or trans but more about activism for a political gain. [quote]Never let someone else’s character flaws keep you from speaking and living your truth.[/quote]This i svery good advice but it sure flies right in the face of saying lgbt and ally only because you're afraid of thing people MIGHT say btw. Oh and before you accuse me of being some phobe I like anyone of any kind just fine until their actions prove I shouldn't.

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  • This is what people don't see. It takes more than just affirmative action. It takes strength. Intelligence. Compassion. That chair was created out of pure unfiltered hate.

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  • You are powerless over other people. They will change when it is in their own interests to change, and not one second sooner. Trying to fix them is just another way of giving up control of your own life. Don’t fall into that trap.

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  • You misunderstand. I'm doing this cause it gives me purpose and because I'm apart of this community, too. And I like coming back to talk to people since I have been cooped at home since the start of Covid.

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  • I didn't show you a chair made from human hair and teeth to fix anyone. I'm showing you that you don't have as much power as you think. Of course I know I can shut off my phone at anytime. I could say nothing when this forum starts being a hatefilled cesspool, but what if I'm tired of remaining silent? What if I'm tired of watching people getting treated horribly? This is what has really been bothering me about this site. People are -blam!- and Bungie doesn't moderate it.

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  • I apologize for jumping in the middle of your conversation here but have you actually seen this forum devolve into a hate filled cesspool before (serious question no trolling)? I must have missed that. I wouldn't have thought it to be possible with how on top of things the moderators have always been. I've had 2 week bans for "hate speech" for making a post saying latency over distance makes the crucible play like crap. I've also had restrictions for saying cuss words their censor doesn't turn into blam. They're quite strict so I'm surprised at this.

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  • Edited by l HyperLethal l: 9/1/2021 1:52:00 PM
    Yes. I have. It's pretty ugly at times. Look at any post regarding bungie.

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  • Wow, I wouldn't even think it possible with how well policed this place is.

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  • Policed? No no no. See this place isn't policed well at all. Don't be fooled. There's a reason why Destiny's subreddit has more traction that this place. It's pretty toxic here. Everyone's mad at someone for something dumb and petty.

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  • I meant policed where slurs and curse words or racist posts get ninja treatment quick. I feel like you'd be hard pressed to find racism at any given time here. It is quite toxic here but you can't police bad attitudes.

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  • Oh no not racism. That -blam!- gets nipped pretty quickly. I mean the general toxicity of this forum as a whole. I just don't like how this community acts towards change.

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  • Edited by Truthiness_Inc: 9/5/2021 3:38:12 AM
    Yeah humans as a whole fear change to things they already like. I get it, the older I get the more things I like get changed to trash. Its an irrational but understandable fear.

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  • Then follow the second paragraph. The first is the trap of which I’m speaking of.

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