Bungie has yet to prove in Endgame to convince me they are more then a Brotherly Love towards each other. Twitter doesn't count.
[quote](LGBT+/Ally only plz)[/quote]
seriously??
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If you would like to be redirected to the lore cards that implicate them as being in a relationship I will be happy to link them here. I'm sure once you read these lore cards you will change your opinion as the acts that they share in these cards are a little more personal than "being brothers". They also are confirmed to live together as well, but I know that means little to people who will deny it even if Bungie says it themselves [i](even though the writers have.)[/i]
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Edited by I_Am_ORADON: 8/31/2021 9:54:37 PM
I_Am_ORADONArchon of the Old Ways, Aka Lord Oradon. - old
[quote]"It is good to see you again, [b]Brother[/b]."[/quote] from the Lore of the Pigeon and the Phoenix. chapter six(Foundations)starts off with them meeting. all the way till chapter 19(Reunion) all of there interactions were strictly Brotherly, Saint even calls Osiris Brother. in which i quoted. [quote]They also are confirmed to live together as well[/quote] so can brothers. my brother and i still live with each other. doesn't mean we are gay. [quote](even though the writers have.)[/quote] [quote]A Destiny 2 writer established on [quote]Twitter[/quote] that they are a gay couple and have been this whole time.[/quote] thats the big problem here, it was done on Twitter, and not in Lore. and before you ask, does it really matter, yes, yes it does. [quote]A LGBT Destiny community, whether a vocal minority or majority, felt like they were being queer baited (as they put it). So they demanded straight up for confirmation from the writer[/quote] Osiris and Saint are NOT in a Romantic Relationship, they are Brothers. [quote]I'm still gonna wait and see if there's ever any full confirmation like a kiss or admittance of love[/quote] untill then, no. they are Brothers. edit: the lore entry of osiris saying in a way his good bye, or with saint it would have been enough. brothers can feel like that also, like never going against the speaker? never leaving the City? never losing Saint to the Vex? these are all feelings a Brother can have. -
[quote]"Have you sent it to Saint yet?" Sagira flitters into view. She brings him back to the present, soaring across space. "No. I told you, it isn't finished." "Have you told him you're writing poetry again? He's going to have so much to say about that." "Enough. You don't need to be involved. He badgers me enough as it is," Osiris barks half-heartedly, [b]his face softening as the words leave him.[/b] "We have work to do." [/quote] From Immolant pt.1: https://www.ishtar-collective.net/records/immolant-pt-1#osiris [quote]"That sounds AMAZING. I can finally stretch my shell for a bit." Sagira flexes. "Speaking of the Tower, Geppetto keeps asking if you've checked under your seat." She jabs a tiny shell point downward. "No." Sagira locks her iris on Osiris as he begins preflight checks. "You're putting more effort in avoiding it…" "I'm really not." "I'll do it." She flutters past his shins and dives under the pilot seat. A muffled "Found it!" sounds beneath him. She emerges with a crumpled note tied in lavender frill and sealed by a crude wax stamp of a flaming bird. "He made us a stamp!" she says, excitedly shaking vibrato into her voice. "What does the letter say, Sagira?" "Oh, now you want to know what it says?" "Sagira." "You just didn't seem interested. I can read it to myself—" "He will ask when we get back." "Well, if you want to know that badly... It says he likes your new poem." "SAGIRA!" [/quote] From: Fond Distance paragraph 12 in the same link provided above. [quote]"I will. Long enough to show you how to implement the simulation; but tonight, I must disembark," Osiris says. "So soon?" Osiris tenses his jaw in forced silence. He twiddles with code. "I'm worried about what Vance found." Saint places a [b]heavy hand on Osiris's chest[/b]. "Let go of your obsession. Do not leave chasing phantoms again." "Phantoms… You think the Darkness is satisfied? This is just the first move. I need to know the next before it's made." "If there is something you fear, let me help you. [b]We face this together[/b]." Osiris's mind drifts to the Dark anomalies. Saint doesn't need another burden. "The safest place for you is the Tower, Saint. Time... tends to renege on its gifts." "So, your mission is dangerous?" Osiris considers lying. "Potentially." "Then do not go. The Vanguard already scouts Europa. The Forest is gone, [b]my fiery bird." [/b] [/quote] Same Lore Thread, two sections down, third paragraph. Feel free to continue to read as much or as little as you'd like but if you still insist that this relationship is simply platonic I must unfortunately consider you to be terrible at reading context clues.
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Edited by I_Am_ORADON: 9/1/2021 9:51:44 PM
I_Am_ORADONArchon of the Old Ways, Aka Lord Oradon. - old
[quote]"Have you sent it to Saint yet?" Sagira flitters into view. She brings him back to the present, soaring across space. "No. I told you, it isn't finished." "Have you told him you're writing poetry again? He's going to have so much to say about that." "Enough. You don't need to be involved. He badgers me enough as it is," Osiris barks half-heartedly, his face softening as the words leave him. "We have work to do."[/quote] brothers can do this also. poetry isn't exclusive to Romantic relationships. [quote]"That sounds AMAZING. I can finally stretch my shell for a bit." Sagira flexes. "Speaking of the Tower, Geppetto keeps asking if you've checked under your seat." She jabs a tiny shell point downward. "No." Sagira locks her iris on Osiris as he begins preflight checks. "You're putting more effort in avoiding it…" "I'm really not." "I'll do it." She flutters past his shins and dives under the pilot seat. A muffled "Found it!" sounds beneath him. She emerges with a crumpled note tied in lavender frill and sealed by a crude wax stamp of a flaming bird. "He made us a stamp!" she says, excitedly shaking vibrato into her voice. "What does the letter say, Sagira?" "Oh, now you want to know what it says?" "Sagira." "You just didn't seem interested. I can read it to myself—" "He will ask when we get back." "Well, if you want to know that badly... It says he likes your new poem." "SAGIRA!"[/quote] what exactly does this prove? theres times when im embarrassed with my brother. this proves nothing. [quote]Saint places a heavy hand on Osiris's chest. "Let go of your obsession. Do not leave chasing phantoms again."[/quote] as a brother, you can care for someone who like osiris was OBSSESED with the Vex, now Hes obssesed with what vance Found. thats called concern. Osiris is a very obssesed person. [quote]"If there is something you fear, let me help you. We face this together."[/quote] if my brother was in trouble, i would want to face it together with him. that still proves its not a Romantic relationship. brothers looking out for each other. [quote]"Then do not go. The Vanguard already scouts Europa. The Forest is gone, my fiery bird." [/quote] that still doesn't convince me its a romantic relationship. brothers can have nicknames for each other. "then do not go. the vanguard already scouts europa. the forest is gone, my brother/ my friend/ my mate*/ theres many ways that can be read, which doesn't make it exclusively a Romantic relationship. Saint is just using different terminology, as the two were know as the Phoenix and the Pigeon. fiery bird just means Phoenix. the "MY"-belonging to or associated with the speaker. isnt exclusive to Romantic, as MY brother, is my brother. [quote] I must unfortunately consider you to be terrible at reading context clues.[/quote] right back at you. Osiris and Saint are Brothers. edit: im going to just stop our conversation here. as the title makes me feel your discriminating against people like me and to be honest its very offensive. chose your words more carefully next time. -
[quote][quote]"Have you sent it to Saint yet?" Sagira flitters into view. She brings him back to the present, soaring across space. "No. I told you, it isn't finished." "Have you told him you're writing poetry again? He's going to have so much to say about that." "Enough. You don't need to be involved. He badgers me enough as it is," Osiris barks half-heartedly, his face softening as the words leave him. "We have work to do."[/quote] brothers can do this also. poetry isn't exclusive to Romantic relationships. [quote]"That sounds AMAZING. I can finally stretch my shell for a bit." Sagira flexes. "Speaking of the Tower, Geppetto keeps asking if you've checked under your seat." She jabs a tiny shell point downward. "No." Sagira locks her iris on Osiris as he begins preflight checks. "You're putting more effort in avoiding it…" "I'm really not." "I'll do it." She flutters past his shins and dives under the pilot seat. A muffled "Found it!" sounds beneath him. She emerges with a crumpled note tied in lavender frill and sealed by a crude wax stamp of a flaming bird. "He made us a stamp!" she says, excitedly shaking vibrato into her voice. "What does the letter say, Sagira?" "Oh, now you want to know what it says?" "Sagira." "You just didn't seem interested. I can read it to myself—" "He will ask when we get back." "Well, if you want to know that badly... It says he likes your new poem." "SAGIRA!"[/quote] what exactly does this prove? theres times when im embarrassed with my brother. this proves nothing. [quote]Saint places a heavy hand on Osiris's chest. "Let go of your obsession. Do not leave chasing phantoms again."[/quote] as a brother, you can care for someone who like osiris was OBSSESED with the Vex, now Hes obssesed with what vance Found. thats called concern. Osiris is a very obssesed person. [quote]"If there is something you fear, let me help you. We face this together."[/quote] if my brother was in trouble, i would want to face it together with him. that still proves its not a Romantic relationship. brothers looking out for each other. [quote]"Then do not go. The Vanguard already scouts Europa. The Forest is gone, my fiery bird." [/quote] that still doesn't convince me its a romantic relationship. brothers can have nicknames for each other. "then do not go. the vanguard already scouts europa. the forest is gone, my brother/ my friend/ my mate*/ theres many ways that can be read, which doesn't make it exclusively a Romantic relationship. Saint is just using different terminology, as the two were know as the Phoenix and the Pigeon. fiery bird just means Phoenix. the "MY"-belonging to or associated with the speaker. isnt exclusive to Romantic, as MY brother, is my brother. [quote] I must unfortunately consider you to be terrible at reading context clues.[/quote] right back at you. Osiris and Saint are Brothers. edit: im going to just stop our conversation here. as the title makes me feel your discriminating against people like me and to be honest its very offensive. chose your words more carefully next time.[/quote] They aren’t brothers 🤣🤣🤣
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That's a pretty spot on analysis, the passages are vague enough for the reader to make their own interpretation. I've always, and will continue to see them as brothers, as family. I find that more touching honestly.
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[quote]That's a pretty spot on analysis, the passages are vague enough for the reader to make their own interpretation. I've always, and will continue to see them as brothers, as family. I find that more touching honestly.[/quote] They aren’t brothers though.
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If you feel like the title is discriminating towards you then you are admitting you are lgbt phobic and are against the lgbt community. Perhaps you should read the title again. But I agree with you as to stoping this because it's obvious to me that you are simply too hard headed to acknowledge the truth even when it's laid out plainly before you. This relationship is so glaringly obvious but people with your mindset may as well be looking at it with your back turned. You do not see it, because you do not [i]wish[/i] to see it.
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SO YOUR OPINION IS THE ONLY RIGHT OPINION BECAUSE YOU SEE ONE THING AND SOMEONE ELSE SEES ANOTHER OK GOT IT!
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It's not an opinion it's been confirmed by a creative lead writer. I don't understand why that is always something people willingly ignore.
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But you also said anyone denying it was LGBT phobic
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I have not said that. Perhaps you have interpreted that way but I have never said someone is lgbt phobic if they do not agree with me. The topic of if they are brothers or not is not up for debate, they have been confirmed as lovers. I am simply pointing out to those who claim it is "not in the lore" that it is, and continues to be, written out.