[quote]Vesper of Radius is actually nuts on Shadebinder. If you run the Frostpulse aspect. The freeze from casting the rift happens first, then the arc shockwave will shatter them. Anything that lives gets knocked back. This also counts as being surrounded. There's a fragment that gives rift energy upon defeating slowed/frozen targets. It has a lot of up time, I even use it in certain GMs. (Disgraced is a good example)[/quote] You have a good point. My goal wasn’t to change that design, but to include some aspects of safety in PvP when using it. PvE will still find success with it :-)