I'm talked about pve basis.
Titian slam and grenades are weak.
The main lightening for warlock is only low level add clear I forget what it's called.
Hunters skip grenades only kill low enemy. And the chest plate flux. Is the only thing that makes it viable. Hunter melee rubbish too
Dunno which tree it is but the one where the more height you have, the more powerful the slam is very fun to use and does a ton a damage (if you have the height. you can't panic pop that one as it requires strategy) Thundercrash is nuts rn, it's why people use it for Atheon dps.
I dunno about warlock being low level add clear, I've cleared a ton of enemies in a room; majors and minors alike. it does need a bit of a buff though as it is a bit underwhelming.
Hunter Arc is just sad, Y1 it was amazing but now it's just terrible even with it's chest exotic to extend duration and increase damage.
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