[quote]hunter smoke[/quote] [quote]Titan suppression nade[/quote] [quote]and a few added effects[/quote] Revenants can do all of this by: - Dodging, which affects people through walls and gives back both charges of... - Melee, with two ranged, tracking, ricocheting shurikens that also do good damage... AND - Duskfield Grenades, which suck players out of cover or back into a lane they're trying to leave and freezes them if they aren't quick to escape...while being shot at. Again, dodging gives both shuriken charges back, granting an effectively endless loop of guaranteeing wins in gunfights because slow applies [i]nine[/i] debuffs at once. But that's fine, right? No problems there?

Okay no I won't say that because 1) gemini jesters were a thing in this game long before stasis, has like a 15 meter radius where it affects players even through walls and the closer you get the more disoriented you are which lowers weapon accuracy and movement speed so that's nothing new. 2) your issue in terms of the dodge seems to be with gamblers dodge specifically which is on ALL hunter subclasses not just stasis. It's always been able to give back melee energy, idr if it also gives back grenade energy but it's nothing new. Now I will agree that duskfield is ridiculous but only because of how big the "suck zone" is. You act as though there are grenades in this game that don't also have large radiuses. Solar and vortex nades, titan lightening nades, skip nades which can literally follow you all the way around a map. Let's not forget suppression nades which can literally take people out of their super. So having something that's not a super be able to kill you in terms of ability IS NOTHING NEW.

You're putting words in my mouth. I don't have issues with anything you listed...except that they're all wrong. Solar/Vortex Grenades don't pull you into the middle of them, Gambler's Dodge doesn't provide two free kills when you're playing subclasses other than Revenant, and Gemini Jesters don't affect accuracy or movement speed.

As for the two free kills on gamblers dodge, there's literally 2 hunter classes I can think of where that is anything and that's bottom tree goldie and and literally any nightstalker class if you combine vortex nades and smoke nades albeit requires more precision

Gotta aim the one-shot knife. Ain't gotta aim shurikens. Heavy knife doesn't bounce to other targets after hitting one. Shuriken does. And, again, shurikens apply nine debuffs. Feel like you're just glossing over that. Nightstalkers get one melee back when they Gambler's and have to use a grenade alongside the melee to guarantee the kill. You know what doesn't? Give you three guesses. You know, I forgot about the grenades. Revenants can also run a fragment that gives them back 50% grenade energy when they shatter something. Another thing to add to the pile of truly gross capabilities Revenants have.