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I'm Beginning to Hate These Forums

I come here too often. Most of the time I come here to lurk, but other times I just can't stand something and have to speak my mind. Many of the times I come here, I see a few people complaining and some decent feedback here and there, but I've noticed that the amount of people crying out for change has increased dramatically lately. They have good reason too, to be honest. I agree with 90% of the forums here, and it upsets me. Bungie has about reached EA levels of greed. It feels like 80% of the "content" we're getting is just recycled to the point of nausea. I see so many people complaining, so much good, legitimate feedback that I feel would improve the game tremendously. I see so many things in these forums, but that's not what upsets me. The thing that upsets me is what I DON'T see. What I don't see is Bungie actually communicating with us here. These forums just feel completely ignored. The forum ninjas are just here to keep the forums safe, but I never see community managers here outside the occasional "we'll tell the team" once every 4 or 5 months. It leads to the feeling of being ignored. It has been proven that being ignored creates the same chemical reaction in the brain as a physical injury. I don't EVER see Bungie listening to these forums, so the build up of hostility and hopelessness makes perfect sense. I just don't understand Bungie's logic. It feels very incompetent and childlike. They create a dedicated place for feedback, but choose to completely ignore it. Are they just so full of pride that they can't listen to the lowly players? At this point, if they started actually communicating here, it'll cause a massive wave of negativity to wash over their posts, but that's actually their fault for not making it the norm. If they would just actively communicate with their playerbase, these forums would eventually become a better place and potentially cause the game to be a better place. My final note is that, of course I know you can't make everyone happy. There will always be [i]someone[/i] complaining about [i]something[/i], but it really seems to me that Bungie is only pleasing themselves. Bungie only wants to do what makes [i]them[/i] happy, regardless of how much it screws players over. Why put in the effort to create a good amount of fun and enjoyable new content when you can skim it all down to below bare minimum requirements and shovel in a bunch of recycled filler and ask for the same price, afterall?
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  • The problem with this, and most Official forums, is that they are moderated by volunteers which are simply fans who have spent way too much time on here. While they may be knowledgeable, they have zero influence and cannot absorb critiques, feedback, etc, and very rarely can they relay them as well. Some community managers will check out the feedback section from time to time, but for the most part, this forum seems to be run by fans but hosted by Bungie. One thing you have to remember is that Destiny is now one of the largest games out there. Last night there were 1.6 million active players when I checked at like 1 am eastern. 8.4 million over the course of one week. There are what, 3, maybe 4 community managers? There are almost 2 million on the Destinythegame subreddit. It's simply not humanly possible to take in, reply, or acknowledge even .1% of 2 million people. Don't get me wrong, Destiny and Bungie both have their issues. Content recycling has been at the top of my peeves since year 2 in Destiny 1. But overall, I think the game is good. People usually do not complain about something they don't care about, but even with all of Destiny's ups and downs, I have a stupid amount of hours into this game and besides Mass Effect, the entertainment hours vs dollars spent cannot be beat anywhere else. Triple AAA games are really a modern miracle of technology. If you ever get the chance to tour a dev studio and ask to see some of the coding and dev processes, you might change your perspective.

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    • I love the forums. Bungie has made something more entertaining than the game. Oh wait the entertainment was made by fans as usual.

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      Bungie instead curates an echo-chamber on Reddit, because they feel safe there, and they get false praise from all the soyboys and shills on there, so it becomes a circlejerk of Bungie making shit decisions and shit content, and people liking it and "ZOMG REDDIT MOMENT"-ing all over it.

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      • About sunset, Cozmo said "I'm hearing you". OK. I understood. Then, I'm waiting his reaction 2-3 months.

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        • Forums a shit hole That's why they go to reddit It's moderated(yes this is bungies fault) and people there make coherent/well written posts. Even if there are some good, valid points made on this forum (and there 100% are) they're poorly presented and as such get ignored. We could choose not to do that, but they wouldn't get as many upvotes as "Bungo bad, this game sucks, bungie should just quit" esque posts

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        • Please don't forget: [u]It's a problem many official forums have.[/u] People have the though of having a direct way to communicate with the devs, that means they believe to inform the devs that they aren't satisfied with the game. People that like this game most like have less motivation to share that position than people disliking the game. That is very very often the motivation of people creating accounts, that leads to many negative posts. Unofficial forums like reddit are about sharing information, spreadsheets, memes and feedback (that bungie actually read because many of them have a mature nature). People sometimes say that reddit doesn't welcome negative feedback. First: that isn't true you can read negative feedback not too rarely And secondly: People saying that are sometimes banned because of acting very childish, offensive and plain butthurt.

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        • Edited by BlakkShadow: 11/1/2020 7:10:32 AM
          Bungie shouldn't listen to the forums, it's the Chernobyl of opinions. if Bungie listened to the forums sunsetting would be cancelled, going into year 4 the game would start to hit 200gb, hand cannons wouldn't get scaled back, season pass(NOT SEASONAL CONTENT) would just have like 5000000 bright dust and enough master working materials to make me play golf horribly and still finish a course, postmaster would have infinite space, there would be a world drop pool so large and wide that the likeliness of getting another weapon twice is the equivalent to getting struck by lightning like 4 times in your whole lifetime, nothing would get done with weapon balancing (i saw a line of posts a while ago with revoker nerf ideas such as giving you a bullet for every headshot which is probably the worst nerf I'd ever seen in my life for anything.) and not to mention Bungie would go bankrupt and wouldn't be able to keep servers running so the game would LITERALLY die the only good thing I've seen on the forums in more recent times is like Bright Dust changes are bad. as it would be nice to have a vendor refresh it's honestly probably not in their time/budget to be able to not only create each model(could be reskinned foundry weapons I wouldn't care) curate every stat and also add the rolls accordingly to make sure the weapons are viable in both PvE and PvP content and not be absolutely broken. Obviously a 100% vendor refresh is likely doable but what would that change about the meta/QoL? please only reply if you firmly believe one of these statements are incorrect or if you have a different light to shed on the topic that isn't just some garbage opinion that we're so used to seeing on these forums. edit* I have my own problems with Bungie but unfortunately most of them aren't getting any light on the forums because people are still angry about sunsetting/DCV as if it is going to kill the game. although i do think that it will kill the game if they continue reissuing weapons that we already have random rolls on with 0 changes(gnawing hunger is a prime example) I think Bungie is smart enough not to do that unless its a Beloved weapon to players. my biggest problem with bungie is the lack of communication with the community about changes they mentioned months ago, for example, Transmog, 110's, Sword/WL0 Skating(I'd I'm not mistaken they said they were looking into possibly doing something to let us do that again based off player feedback)

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            So many kids pretending bungo listen to feedbacks on Reddit I guess most fanboys just don't have a reddit account

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          • If you lie down with dogs, you will get up with fleas.

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          • Go to Reddit. There is intelligent, constructive criticism with less toxicity most of the time and the plqyer base is much more massive than the Bungie forums. Bungie forums tend to be a rage quit/toxic atmosphere where there is much more bashing Destiny than constructive criticism. You do well on these forums if you're just trolling and toxic. That kind of attitude gets shut down on Reddit.

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            • I really dont like it when I defend Bungie bc I'm no fan boy but dude do you even see the immature children that visit these forums. The community team dont interact here bc they get tired of being insulted in every comment. I come from forums or community reddits that have no where near the vitriol that these forums spew.

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            • *James Franco in a noose* "First time?"

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            • Don't go on forums if you can't take the complaining.

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            • Me. Oh looks some legitimate feedback being ignored. Oh look more hate directed at bungie Oh look people wanting change Oh look people being banned for no reason Oh look the classes are fighting AGAIN Oh great... Another forum post calling out certain people and just being insulting with no point. Wait... A forum post about a Guardains opinion that's actually normal? HERASY! Seriously I love this community but I also hate it

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            • No company can sink to EA levels dude. It's not possible

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              • So what I got from this was nerf fusion rifles?

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                • My buddy got 500 Silver for filling out a survey Bungie emailed to him. I'm starting to think too many of us dick around here giving our opinions for free when we shouldn't be. See! Shit! I just did it again...🤦‍♂️

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                • The vocal minority spamming the forums everyday don't represent the majority of players who actually enjoy the game and will keep playing it despite the games problems...

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                • Forums are better than the game. These forums are awesome. People get to express their true opinion about a game they used to like. Unlike the censored garbage that is reddit, where fanboys get together and.......I’ll leave it at that. In all reality Bungie sucks and people are pissed about it. Let them vent. If you can’t handle it, leave

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                • Bungie forums, literally, have the lowest and worst percentage of people who express their dissatisfaction. Full of other platforms, domains where you can find people who really like and enjoy this game. Bungie don't give a s..t to these "forum nerd opinions" anyway :)

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                • Yep, EA level and rising.

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                • We speak with our wallets. I like the game and will continue to support it. You shouldn’t if you don’t want to. One of the crowds will win out. [spoiler]Sorry, all out of salt.[/spoiler]

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                  Regret
                  Regret

                  Cater to casuals! - old

                  They are good for a laugh at least

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                • I didn't belive it before, but I'm starting to think they are making changes to the game for content creators.

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                • Just do what Bungie does, don’t take the forum seriously. Just read it when you are deficient in sodium chloride.

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