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Edited by Dredgen Truth: 10/24/2020 7:31:39 PM
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Bungie, please do not ever sunset exotics.

When in a Twab it was said that there were no plans currently in place to sunset exotics, I think a lot of us breathed a sigh of relief, but I have always had that in the back of my mind, thinking about the word "currently." I think that most people agree that while some exotics are pretty good, most of them aren't breaking the sandbox. Anything that is usually just needs a bit of a tuning. Besides, while exotics are just as much a part of the sandbox as legendaries are, they've always kind of operated differently. While there are plenty of good legendaries, there are only a few really exotics that match up at any given time. Considering that, it should be far easier to balance out the exotics in the sandbox than the legendaries. All this to say, most of us don't think there's very much reason to sunset exotics, and most of us would like to see them stay uncapped, especially when so many of them have never had their chance to shine. Edit: I probably should have guessed that my first post to make it to the top of trending would be one about sunsetting. Honestly I'm just glad that this is getting some visibility. As much as I think bungie isn't going to make that mistake, I'd rather give them the feedback now and leave it up to chance as little as possible. So thanks for putting me here.

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  • Dont think they will, because they are already having a hard time creating creative exotics. This season for example had no new exotic armor pieces for the first time since launch. They were probably moved forward to BL so that wouldnt feel empty. Also, the lack of stasis exotics coming next season is an argument for this.

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  • They should it will stop jotuneers amd arbablasters filling crucible

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    • Edited by Real Memes: 10/26/2020 8:56:24 PM
      They haven’t sun set exotics since Y1 of D1. Even so they brought like 90% of them back with the new infusion system. Since then they haven’t touched exotics. So Im confused on why this was brought up. Literally everything that I’ve seen has been blown out of proportion. “They are gonna nerf this, sunset that.” Like be quiet and wait until confirmation.

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      • Edited by Blue Spy 3DO: 10/25/2020 9:10:04 PM
        Sadly they’ve done it before and I wouldn’t doubt they will do it again, sure D1 was on a smaller scale but I still wouldn’t put it past them. Still to this day haven’t gotten my Mythoclast 2.0 and just kept the old one.

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        • Edited by Azoth17: 10/24/2020 11:15:00 AM
          they do something else to make you want to buy more content: Nerf the Exotics of the previous season, while making the Exotics of the current season op. That isn't an accident it's intentional, to increase purchases.

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          • Agreed if they Suset Exotics that will be the final straw for me

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            • If they end up creating an Exotic that just throws balance out of control I'd have no issues with them sunsetting it if and only if they can't properly balance it in whatever piece of content it's out of control in. Aside from that there's zero reason for sunsetting any kind of Exotic.

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              • They dont need to. They just wait til me really enjoy one and make it worthless. Or, as with many, they drop and stay worthless.

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              • Spoiler: Savathun is Luke Smith. Like a Dreaming City, he rolls back all your weapons and makes you repeat the same thing forever.

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                • Edited by Yosemite Sam: 10/24/2020 6:40:32 PM
                  I know I'm going to get downvoted for this, but oh well, it's what happens when someone points out the truth that others don't like. This is something this entire community needs to always keep in mind [b](license agreement, subject to change)[/b] IMO this company has abused this, especially with this game contently changing their mind about whatever to fit their needs, not really considering what the players would like... It's one of the things I have a hard time with when it comes to trusting this companies word. An example, They said Factions were coming back in season 7 and anyone can look that up, but we all know that never happened. So, the community asked about them for a good couple of years and not one time was there an official word about them until the directors cut. It was mainly "they have no plans at this moment" but later they added some of the loot in the game to drop from factions. I've lost count of how many times in the last 6 years this company said something and done the complete opposite. The problem with this is, the (unsuspecting players) get their hopes up and easily get disappointed when what they think will happen never happens. This is a really bad thing knowing this company constantly changes things. Yes, plans change, things change but to constantly keep changing everything is not a plan, that is what you call winging things, and winging things doesn't work for a game like this. Edit: https://www.reddit.com/r/DestinyTheGame/comments/3hyy1t/quote_by_deej_regarding_exotics_becoming_obsolete/ Bungie Weekly Update 12/04/2014: [quote]"In the months to come, your quest to become more powerful will have more avenues that lead to satisfaction. The last thing we wanted was for you to look at your favorite gun or helmet and decide that it had become obsolete. Since the reveal, we’ve read a lot of ideas for how this could have been done better. Your feedback is clear: The time you have invested in your stuff should be respected."[/quote] This may have applied to the game back then, but it has never since the day D2 released applied to this game. Don't ever get attached to anything in a game, or any game for that matter. Nothing is untouchable in Destiny when it comes to this company knowing how often they change their mind.

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                  • Edited by Synge: 10/25/2020 4:58:26 PM
                    Good luck with that, exotic sunsetting is on the way. It doesn’t help how many content creators and ritual forum users have such a hard on for sunsetting. I’ll never understand why some many people are so deeply entrenched in mediocrity, that they refuse to call Bungie to task for saying that we would be able to keep our favorite stuff moving forward. Pro sunsetting players Fall back on arguments such as “it’s done in other loot games”, as if there is no way to set the bar with hard work, dedication to their word, and innovation. If you’re reading this, know that the people who created the devices and platforms you are interfacing with, didn’t think “it can’t be done”, or “it’s never been done”. At one time in the distant past, Bungie didn’t think that way either. They simply aren’t the same company, and the current team is standing on the backs of giants who built a foundation so good, even their current buffoonery, and bold face lies can’t stop it from being the best looter shooter in a heap of garbage.

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                    • do not say PLEASE .if bungie sunset my ALL masterworked exotics. then i will sunset BUNGIE alltogether. ''not only destiny2''

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                    • Exotics already get "sunsetted" via their effective usefulness over time (Skyburner's Oath, Ruineous Effigy, etc), so having them get sunsetted for real would be pointless and a right thwack between the legs with a sledgehammer, especially if they sunset the super-rare raid exotics. And to be clear, the example exotics I mentioned are just personally ineffective; SO is outclassed by pretty much everything, and RE was really only to do the Savathûn's Eyes (fun gun to use though).

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                    • Bungie shouldn't be sunsetting anything, let alone exotics. But of course, they'll come after exotics eventually just as they promised in the initial announcement regarding sunsetting. They're dead-set on shipping updates that ruin the player experience, after all.

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                    • It took me 6 years playing Destiny straight to finally realize what Bungo means when they say Space Magic. When Bungo takes away your guns in a shooting game, they replace it with Magic Cards! Bungie Logic!

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                    • As a D1 vet who played since alpha and beta and who always pre-ordered / bought an expansion in the first few days, I can say that Beyond Light is the first expansion that I haven't pre-ordered and that I won't be buying in the first few days. Ill maybe consider buying it eventually so that I can play with my clan and whatnot but this whole sunsetting bullshit is not going well for me, a mainly pvp orientated player ( I do both pvp and pve but more so pvp ). However, I swear to -blam!-ing I don't know what, If Bungo sunsets EXOTICS, I will -blam!-ing quit this shit and never return.

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                      • They first need to make a better retheme for end game content, before they start to Sun-Set Exotics in the same way as Legendries will.

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                      • Never again.

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                      • Edited by Rebel: 10/25/2020 11:43:29 PM
                        If they sunset my outbreak, whisper, and thorn after all the shit I went through for them. I will 100% never play destiny again. Garunteed. We already paid for this content and I refuse to be swindled to do it all again for a light number difference. Gamers need to consider legal actions NOW

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                        • Sunset my ace, outbreak, sunshot or 1k or my kast word and I will not play destiny any more

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                        • I've put up with all of Bungie's bullshit since D1, but the day they make any of my favorite exotics obsolete is the day I'm finally done with this franchise.

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                        • You’re gonna be gravely disappointed next year...

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                          • Some exotics need reworked and buffed honestly a lot of them aren’t even worth using like the aeon group great concept but nobody actually uses them

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                          • Edited by NigorosK: 10/26/2020 7:33:51 AM
                            Bungie’s vision of Destiny is largely centered around recycling over and over, with cyclical meta rotations, covered up in design upgrades, so if exotics are sunset. They will eventually come back. Look at Beyond light, it’s shadowkeep 2.0, double the price justified by a couple tweaks: - introducing a destination that was designed at the times of TTK - recycling the will of Crota - introducing one new strike - reskin of current abilities into frozen versions (ok that’s new, but still far from TTK abilities revolution) - sunshot recycled meta - recycling cosmodrome - recycling VoG. Vex Mytho is going to be meta for a few weeks, then big nerf, just like in D1. - that’s not to mention the recycling, nerfing and the like to the old whisper/blackhammer/black spindle which has now, just like in D1, become useless except for 1 or 2 encounters in the game. - same for sleeper - same for so many other weapons, abilities, and exotics. The most recent statement I heard from bungie is: “we want destiny to feel like D1” Yeah right. We got that...! I remember a statement: “bungie’s consistent inability to deliver content in quality and time.” Meanwhile ATVI is now double the value they were with bungie weighing on expectations and costs. I really love this game, but its history, vision and management are very disappointing. Hopefully it will become something more complete, eventually an expanding universe (as opposed to DCV), in 10y.

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                          • they’re like the far left. they’ll say one thing one day and something completely different the next.

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                            • Edited by C1B3D: 10/26/2020 6:54:14 AM
                              They already did that, by nerfing them in to the ground. Just look at Sleeper. And they will sunset or even vault Exotics, you know why? Because they can sell you the same Exotics as new content years later.

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