Let's look at the notes. [spoiler]Elatha FR4  The Old Fashioned  Mos Epoch III  Hawthorne's Field-Forged Shotgun  Last Hope  Timelines' Vertex  Interference VI  Dire Promise  True Prophecy  Jian 7 Rifle  Enigma's Draw  Distant Tumulus  Escape Velocity  Honor's Edge  Gnawing Hunger  Arsenic Bite-4b  Main Ingredient  Outrageous Fortune  Truthteller  Nature of the Beast  Last Perdition  Bad Omens  Night Watch  Toil and Trouble  Wishbringer  Last Dance  Lonesome  Long Shadow  Steel Sybil Z-14 [/spoiler] Half of these weapons are not that good or have been outclassed. Dire Promise is way better then dire promise, better dps and RoF. Wishbringer is shit compared to and decent shotgun, why use 2 shots instead of one? Nature of The Beast and other 180s are..just bad. 1 second ttk in the same ranges of other handcannons is just trash. They say the weapons are based on the meta. Bungie half of these are not meta at all. The reload changes are just dumb. The reason people use relaod perks is because the other perks are trash in pve. Why would you use dynamic sway reduction in pve or some other perk. You should've learned your damn lesson a year ago. Reload l+ Damage will always be the best. You really need to buff the underused perks. Don't cry about power creep because snipers got nerfed. Who would use a shotguns for dps? Fusion rifles are meh. We're already in a stale pve meta, no power creep is there. It takes a longer time then ever to kill a raid boss. Don't make it even longer. 600 autos. Bungie states this archtype is perfect. So where are those primary buffs. Where is that Scout Rifle buff? You better get the future patch notes Baked or the meta will be half-baked like the whole of season of the worthy. Some good... 110s are getting a look at. Some unpopular auto archetypes are getting looked at. But they have a lot of talk buff they never got the field goal. Back to BF2. Edit. Dire Promise is better then old fashioned