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Gonna be real rn man. In high level comp you know what I've died most to this season? Warlock handheld supernovas. Arc web is cheesy too. Second most? Titans shoulder charges and normal melees from being able to one shot me. Oh, and magnetic grenades with the void class mod. I've fought more hunters, and more hunters have survived our encounters with arc battery. But I haven't died to as many hunters as I have the other two classes. Hunter invis isn't even hard to counter. You can slap em away with anything. Oh I forgot to mention that one super, you know, the dawnblade? It's the fastest super in the game, lasts forever, and is super difficult to kill because of it's 65MPH speeds?
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  • Bottom tree Dawnblade is getting its speed nerfed tomorrow after the season ends.

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  • How much? I knew that the super length was getting a reduction, but I didn't know about the speed.

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  • They're making Burst Glide work the same speed during the super as it does when not in super. The way to get the bonus speed now is only on top tree Dawnblade when using Icarus Dash while in super.

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  • Thanks man. I sometimes have a hard time picturing what bungie means with certain phrasings. At least, when it comes to other classes. I don't play anything but hunter anymore, I can't stand playing the other classes. I get so bored with them. Good to know! Overall, I don't care if the titans and warlocks have cheesy cheese tactics and abilities. I like when they have things they enjoy. I just get annoyed in crucible when it's the only reason I'll die sometimes 😂

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  • I switch between Titan and Warlock every so often, so I try to keep up on any changes that come to those classes. My Hunter is by far my least played class. Not because I dislike the class, but the two friends I play with a lot both play Hunter, so I play something else for diversity's sake.

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  • I used to play my Titan a little bit, but I feel weird playing anything other than my main. I feel less like my preferred class when I play anything but my preferred class. But that's me and how I feel about it you know?

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  • I think I find Titan and Warlock easy to switch between because their jumps feel very similar. But I will say that jumping puzzles are [b]easy[/b] mode with Warlock's Strafe Glide. That jump has sooo much in-air control that it's ridiculous.

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  • Edited by idioTeo: 12/9/2019 11:52:47 AM
    Looool, if you die to hhsn, arc web and shoulder charge you are just bad Arcstrider has the best win rate on console since season 6

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  • If I'm bad, you must be a pile of garbage. I'm one of 10K people across all platforms to get the Claymore, and I was one of the first thousand people to get it. I don't die to arc strider, so you must be bad if that's what you're phucking dying to.

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  • Edited by idioTeo: 12/9/2019 11:57:35 AM
    Congrats you played the game when nobody was playing it Now, if you are that good, you shouldn't have any trouble splitting from your teammates when arc webbing, shotgun a should charge and bait a hhsn Guess why arcstrider is #1 in win rate in crucible, comp ecc since season 6 (why didn't you say anything about it?) But yep, hhsn is op

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  • My playstyle is centered around a bow with various other weapons. Usually telesto to trap the area around me to keep me safe from shotgun pushers. I also use red mamba, sidearms, or sometimes a second bow. My playstyle is best described as an aggressive zone control. I die from handheld because they eat the damage with the gauntlets. I can trade with them usually, but I still die. Shoulder charge is usually easy, but if they have traction boots on, then I'll die often to that Titan. Mind you I'm not losing these matches. It's just what I die to the most. Hunters? I smack other hunters around all damn day. They're so easy to me. It's the classes with cheesy one hit kills that actually give me a challenge. But it's not a challenge I lose dude.

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  • Edited by idioTeo: 12/9/2019 12:04:54 PM
    So why arcstrider has the best win rate since season 6? 🤡 Let me explain you: according to this stat, any average arcstrider is more effective than any average titan or warlock In addiction to that, top players on console usually main hunters It's the esier to use and the best to match the skill of high skill level players

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  • Clown emoji like a retart. Ok. Anyway, I can't give you an objective answer to represent the objective data you've given. I can say that hunters have a wider skill gap. I can say that more people in the community play hunters, and that that decision is hugely made because of how cool the hunters look, not based on abilities the class has. You can't even say how arc strider might be op. It isn't. Arcbolt grenade. Dodge. Melee lunge with increased range from a Dodge isn't even the same as a titans base melee range. Nothing about arc strider is close to being op. Success rate is due to skill, not the class doing shit for you.

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  • Edited by idioTeo: 12/9/2019 12:14:49 PM
    If the pool is wide enough each element of the pool can be considered the same, prove the opposite and you might win a nobel So, hunters aren't statistically more skilled than the other classes Population doesn't change the win rate, since it's a % (6wins/10games=60wins/100games) Arcstrider doesn't need anything but recovery, stompees gives you mobility, the subclass is literally better than 5 paragon for free, dodging gives you melee and dmg reduction during dodge, getting wounded gives you nade (arcbolt is crazy good with hunter's mobility) dodge and melee energy. Distribuition gives you the super because dodge is the best class ability to spam it and you get it just running into a wall (All of these bonuses don't require you to get a kill with them) The melee is a free kill in close quarter kills The super is great at 1vs1 any other popular super That's better than any hhsn or a shoulder charge I agree on 1 thing only, hunters have the higher skill gap, because they offer much more tools than any other class, on console mobility is enough to justify the lack of a ohk ability But bad hunters do better than bad warlocks and titans (as the stats show) that means they are more effective, even if they lack a ohk ability

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  • You've proven nothing, you've just stated what the bottom tree is good for. You think a decent neutral game with a super anyone can run from is op? Overused? Yeah you sure have proven that. Op? Hell no man, you're delusional.

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  • Edited by idioTeo: 12/9/2019 12:19:54 PM
    Uncontested first place trending win rate means better than anything else https://guardian.gg/2/class-stats?platform=console&mode=5&start=2019-06-02&end=2019-12-09 Here you have the stat

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