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11/8/2019 6:11:25 PM
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We're currently monitoring responses to the +2 change to pinnacle drops. If we were to make all prime engrams pinnacle level, I feel feedback would quickly turn into pinnacles feeling meaningless. Players would get through the 950-960 level track pretty fast.
That said, I'll make sure we get feedback to the team over prime engrams losing value when you hit 950.
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What if Prime engrams could be used as a currency. Like either going to a planet vender like Asher Mir and trading it for 1 of his armor set pieces that have a guaranteed stat roll of 55+ ? I would suddenly have great value for prime engrams trying to get 60 base stats rolls from specific vendors. Which would be AMAZING 😍
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Edited by GothMomOnOF: 11/14/2019 8:49:28 AMI'm sorry, but no. Go to wastedondestiny.com and see how many hours I put into this game. Never mind, it's 3218 hours. My artifact is +20, and Prime Engrams are dropping at a whopping 951. Why? I don't have a dedicated raid team, or a ready supply of willing friends to jump in and do stuff with. I fly solo most of the time, so all that "shared wisdom" is lost, as are chances at most of the pinnacle activities, the raids demanding clears I don't have (and can't get, except in older raids that are practically useless now), and anything else that isn't matchmaking-enabled. I've leveled up my artifact boost +3 in the last week. That's what? 6,000,000 XP? Still getting 951 Prime Engrams. I really, really don't think we're going to make it through the 950-960 track too quickly, unless you're looking at a [i]very[/i] long timeline. I know I won't, because I'm still not getting the pinnacle drops, and the only reason my power level is increasing is because of my artifact.
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This week was fine for getting pinnacles since we had IB. What can you do for us on weeks where there is no IB?
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The +2 feels balanced. you do feel like you are making reasonable progress. Perhaps every week there is one extra activity that gives pinnacle, say rotate the other activities for pinnacle reward every week.
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Why does it matter?
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How about primes can reroll weapons
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Maybe instead of pinnacle drops, the prime engrams drop with high rolls?
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THIS. PLEASE. I just want some way to get a decent roll on my Tangled Web grasps, they look so good but I can't use them as long as my notorious invader grasps have a better roll.
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Change to progression systems doesn’t always work and this one to me has not worked
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Then get rid of pinnacles and go back to the way it was. I agree that there needs to be more options for pinnacles if they are staying. If not get rid of them and go back to prime engrams and end game and exotics giving the power boosts... nobody wants to play your broken iron banner and some people don’t have time or patience to deal with the toxic people in the raid community. I can’t even raid bc now everyone has and you have to KWTD. Screw that, get rid of pinnacles.
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Most of the people saying kwtd are fine with it if you just watched like a youtube video on the stuff. If you don't want to take the time to do that then you can either find the occasional person who's willing to teach or maybe you just aren't cut out for raiding. Because if nobody could get into a team without a clear, then nobody could get their first clear, and I guarantee you, months, even years after the release of a raid, it's still possible to find a team you can clear it with. Well, unless you're the kind of person who didn't want to put in the time and effort and then blame your team for the constant wiping that ensues.
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Give +1 for prime engrams, and +2 for pinnacles. Everyone will be able to reach max level. Players who grind will need more time, but players who does "end-game activities" like raid will still have their reward with a better light level . Problem solved.
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There isnt a max ll
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Damn good idea
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Edited by NVMYGT: 11/10/2019 4:19:32 PMI got a 952 primary a 952 secondary, then a 953 primary, then a 953 secondary, and when I turned in my first iron banner bounty I got a 953 Gunnoras axe. This duplicate crap really sucks! Edit: I finally got a 953 heavy but then I got another primary and secondary. I need some armor
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Agreed all I have gotten from the dungeon is helmets, feels really bad
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It's not meant to be easy.
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Hey Dmg 04, Do you think you could stop by my post about Thundercrash and Nova Warp? https://www.bungie.net/en/Forum/Post/254286858/0/0
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Why don't you respond like this more often with actual insight into why something is the way it is now, rather than just "I'll pass along this feedback?"
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Dmg04 your answer highlights the problem. Reaching level cap should be attainable and rather easy for all players. It’s a very easy and simple way to give everyone a little bit of satisfaction by getting there. We have endgame activities like the raids and dungeons which drop emblems armor and weapons. So we already have something to set aside elite players from others. So here’s the easy and obvious fix. Stop being RIDICULOUSLY greedy with eververse armors. They should look good but be a clear step down in cosmetics from raid armor. This way the endgame players stand out when they want and can be recognized. This would also push desire and attempts for the community to try raids. The armor should have higher stats as well. I realize there are elitist YouTube guys out there that will never be satisfied until they are the only people with cool looking stuff and only they can beat it but tell them to run off. You already have a decent set up for endgame and very few players ever complete the end game dungeons or raids on level anyway. However I mentioned making eververse reasonable so this solution that fixes the issue day 1 will never be implemented as they have to try to take advantage of all players when it comes to eververse.
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Pinnacles to +2 is a good chance. Now just implement a system where you don't get a drop in a duplicate slot.. Turned in 4 IB bounties to recieve 3 power weapons.. What a massive let down. Make it drop for every slot where a +2 isn't present in, either equipped or in inventory
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Got 6x secondaries from pinnacles, i feel your pain...
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I totally understand where your coming from with your point about the prime engrams. However Iron banner is on this week, which gives us 4 pinnacle items, on one of my characters, 3 of them gave me 3 helmets. Which made me extremely fustrated due to iron banner being a rare special event to get more pinnacle gear, and this was pretty pointless to myself. So I hope you understand were I was coming from with this post about the prime engrams, even if it was only +1. Because while too yourself and too some people who think that it would make pinnacle gear less special. There are people out there who seems to have really bad RNG like myself getting gear, and I just seem to get multiple of the same gear I hope guardians can see this from the other side of things too and understand where I am coming from with this Thank you for passing my feedback on DMG :)
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Edited by Rob Bolton 86: 11/9/2019 9:29:37 AMValor reset pinnacle once a week. 100k score gives you pinnacle but master nightfall should be additional pinnacle. Pit of heresy encounters +1 whilst boss is +2 Maybe bring old raids up to level or at least final boss fights give +1 pinnacle along with shattered throne. Gambit/prime needs something for pinnacle. We don't need prime engrams. There's enough activities in the game which you can bring up to level.
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Please give pvp players a way to earn at least a pinnicle drop a week from pvp...not including IB bounties which I detest. Also for materials. Each vendor should have a weekly grindy bounty to earn shards in their respective playlist. Need options other than farming 980 and 950 NF...causals would benefit. Lastly...raid chests should reward mats also like the old days.
