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Edited by Geist:
10/22/2019 6:14:27 PM
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Been hovering around 5000 for days. What's holding me back is being punished severely for a loss. 3 to 1 win loss just to creep forward is horrible. And if you're unlucky enough to lose more than once in a row it resets hours of work. How long is it going to take before it is understood that NO ONE enjoys moving backwards in a game.
You can't win them all no matter how good you are. But winning the majority of the time and still going backwards is bull.
It also promotes toxicity between teammates. Hate messages because everyone is so afraid to lose they blame each other. Is that how you want this?
Why not make legend in comp something like 10 or 20 thousand glory to reach? But you only progress on wins and don't go backwards. This would still make it a grind for a dedicated pvp player.
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What you are experiencing is that your MMR (match making rating) is lower than the rank you are in. Thanks to the new update, the game naturally boosts your glory rank of it determines that you are much more skilled than the rank you are currently in. Well the opposite is true as well. If you are in a rank above your capability, the game is going to curb your advancement and try to drag you back to where it thinks you belong. Although it sucks and it feels bad to see your 3 victories be wiped away by 1 loss, it is something that has to be done to stop the higher ranks from being flooded with people who are ELO boosting for things like the Undying title. And while you may not enjoy the feeling of moving backwards in comp, everyone’s ceiling is different. Yours just might not be as high as other players. I personally think that the new changes work better than the old glory system, as allowing easy access to Fabled means that anyone can get the pinnacle weapons, however the climb to legend is still challenging enough that only the most skilled players will make it. So in short, your MMR is lower than whatever rank you are in and you’re losing more glory than you gained. Which is good because you probably shouldn’t be in that rank then
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I'm sorry but this is untrue, on xbox at least. My friend, a new light player who just picked up the game a few days ago reached Legend no problem. He was carried by randoms each game. Now I'm not a bad comp player, but getting stuck at Mythic 1 because my team doesn't know that running in alone as soon as they spawn will get them killed is just bull.
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Your friend is extremely lucky. Ive honestly given up at this point. Its not fun so why bother.
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Im not going to claim to be the best player out there, i can honestly say i do well enough even at mythic 3 to compete. Sometimes i lead and a good number of times i am keeping up with the rest of the match. Very rarely do i find myself getting completely stomped. Which is fine. I win more than i lose typically. By that standard i should still be able to crawl forward at least some. Not move backwards because of the occasional loss. The skill system is broken anyways. I will accept close losses. That's how it should be. But i shouldn't be seeing players on my team at mythic level that seem to have no clue what they're doing. And vice versa a team that completely wipes us out.
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There should absolutely be glory loss in a competitive playlist, otherwise there's no challange.
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Progressing only on wins and having a ton of glory to reach would still be a challenge. While i agree that skill based is not a bad thing for comp, that should stay, the luck factor is bs. Winning several times then being punished because i get potato team mates, or being matched against players LEAGUES ahead of me is irritating. Which wouldn't be so bad if it didn't bounce back hours of progress
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That's not a challange at all, it's just grinding. And you have won the last 14 out of 24 games but are maintaining a sub 1 kd, so it's not potato teammates. I don't think you should be complaining here. Just keep grinding and play your life.
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Cool since you're checking out my stats why don't you take in the big picture. With the exception of 2 days my wins outnumber my losses. And one of those they were even. In general i win more than i lose. This isn't about complaining its about not being rewarded for hard work. And progressing BACKWARDS.
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Had to look up your stats when you mentioned potato teammates. Again, you have a sub 1 kd. If all your team mates shared your performance, you would not win. If matchmaking was glory based as it has always been, than you would be complaining.
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My kd fluctuates all over the place per match. As low as .5 as high as 13.0. Kd doesnt mean anything to anyone except tryhards trying to shame other players. My overall crucible kd is actually positive and has been. But again, this doesn't matter. I play crucible for fun. Not stats. As my original post states, this is about not moving backwards in a game. I cant name one other AAA shooter that reverts progress. I like a grind. And im not alone in that mentality.
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[quote]My kd fluctuates all over the place per match. As low as .5 as high as 13.0. Kd doesnt mean anything to anyone except tryhards trying to shame other players. My overall crucible kd is actually positive and has been. But again, this doesn't matter. I play crucible for fun. Not stats. As my original post states, this is about not moving backwards in a game. I cant name one other AAA shooter that reverts progress. I like a grind. And im not alone in that mentality.[/quote] Everyone's kd fluctuates, that's why we have an average. And this is not shaming, but simply an observation stemming from the claim you made about potato teammates, where you yourself seem to belong on average. Rank is tied to skill, in any activity. Bungie has relaxed this to the extreme, where it no longer holds that meaning and has instead made it about grind. So you should be embracing this change, not complaining about it. This seasons comp is akin to playing pee wee basketball while being able to rank at the top of the NBA.
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Im comfortably above average. And fine with that.
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up! I wish Bungie could understand it, many people are doing it to reach pinnacle bounty quest and some pvp user experience could be worst because of it. I like PVP, but last season I just lose hope to reach 2100 because of the toxic and unfair players in the wrong range, also many users with they Pay-to-Win weapons or Pair Matchmaking exploit that brought MANY users with no time in PvP to reach it. Just put it on Normal Crucible too, in my humble opinion Ranked PVP mode is to show your skills not obtain weapons or any stuff related to the core game.
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Fabled is actually very easy to reach this season. You lose very very little for a loss. You could probably hit it in a few hours. I did it in an hour and a half for a buddy. After fabled its just as miserable as before. If anything they need to not punish you so hard for losses then remove heavy ammo and it would be better.
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Yet you're still trying ?
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Nope lol. Im playing other games that are fun.
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Edited by ImJarenWard: 10/22/2019 3:09:00 PMWow you Give up to easily. Some people want easy mode. You're 800 away. So close. Wish you had PC I'd help you the rest. Beat zkmushroom yesterday in high comp... twas great. Had respect for the guy until he goes on stream saying we camped lmao! Sniper last word. I got 2 shoots to sit back and that's it. No camping with last word. Thing doesn't exactly map. Also my stats are shit. Because...... say it with me guys.... stats mean nothing. Guys inflate these as well.
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I wouldn't say easily. Ive been working at it several days straight. I rocketed right up to mythic but it's been extremely frustrating since then. I'll finish it at my leisure since i have a lot of time. I tried getting others to help but ive had bad luck. Either they're not great or too good for me.
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They're too good for you? Wow I hope no one has honestly said that. There are good players that will help.
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Well you know. Toxic will be toxic i suppose.
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True. Well good luck man you get on PC sometime hit me up.
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Bravo. This sums it up perfectly.
