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Edited by TJM99: 9/18/2019 10:56:55 PM
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Thoughtsplosion at the VidDoc release (Long and maybe ranty, be warned I guess)

Look, all the same fancy talk you keep repeating means nothing if you don't deliver. And you can't sugar coat shit into being okay, that crappy foundation with still collapse under all that sugar. I'm tired of being told that this year is the year that you [i]really[/i] start telling us where you going I'm tired of being told that I'm on the journey with you, if I weren't, I wouldn't even be here, I get it already, I would have jumped off long ago like so many others if I just couldn't deal with you as a traveling companion anymore. I'm tired of being told you want to not dictate the game, yet in reality, you do because you're the one driving the bus on this journey, and we're stuck in the very back of it while Datto and friends have all the front seats. I can't complain about them directly, but I only find myself more distasteful of them when their high profile and easy direct line to the team somehow some way feels like a detriment to the core player experience. Your chase to challenge them scares me dearly because if I can have such a hard time trying to pick up the slack of others in Crown of Sorrow, what are the chances I can even do anything for them in Garden of Salvation. I can't cure lesser skilled players, I don't have some elite clan of a bunch of random people I will never really know, my friends stopped taking this game seriously because they found it impossible to take you seriously (I'm sure many can relate). The game is easy when you're good at at it, but a nightmare when you're not. I know challenging the hardcore is always a goal, but you can't compromise the experience of others in favor of it. Auto-reload does not mean jack shit if the group can barely make it to a damage phase or actually get any shots off and survive until the next one. Just because some found out they're too good at the game does not mean that everyone else should get screwed. I'm tired of this evolving world ideology meaning activities have to go. They don't. The annual pass added around 11 GBs to the not over 100GB Forsaken release. Obviously you can't expand the game forever, the Tiger engine is horrible and you need something that allows faster changes and better file compression. You can afford to not take out 4 activities however. I honestly doubt that whatever happens in Undying's end is just 100% nullifying the possibility of ever running Offensive ever again, if the concept of it having ended in the timeline is suddenly a problem, remember your logic for strikes after [b]Cayde died[/b], they're just "moments in time". So guess what, when Undying ends, Vex Offensive has 100% fair grounds to follow the same logic as a [b]moment in time[/b] when the vex were invading. I feel very uninterested in future seasons since you want to carry the scariness of the digital age to the next stage with literal renting of [i]activities[/i], going even further than a battle pass does with buying the ability to get certain things before they're gone. Now you have to buy the ability to [i]do[/i] things before it's gone forever. That small consideration of people's money matters a lot and ignoring it can push away from sales. As it stands, after a certain season, your 10 dollars will only get you exotic quests and maybe a raid, much less valuable than it was originally with its activity, battle pass rewards, and its little story arc through it that you would have followed. You do not need to play the FOMO card in order to create memories for people. "I was there when..." is something you must let happen naturally, because when you try to force it with FOMO tactics on stuff people are [b]paying for[/b] you look scummy. I was there when hype for Destiny was truly possible, I was there when that Vault opened for the first time for anyone. I was there when that heart send a message, when that son cried into the dark, when that convict fell, when Willbreaker shattered, when the Lords deemed a new generation, when the Tower fell, when the Traveler awoke, when a friend fell, when a shape-shifting wish dragon just stood there and got memed, when Trials turned PvP into a meta craphole, when Thorn was left unchecked for too long, when high range shotguns ruined my favorite jump, when people held hands for dear life, when so many of these things happened. They did not need to be removed from the game to be memories, they were memorable outright, even if they sucked and shouldn't have existed. It's one thing to escalate the story through a progressive arc that has this big thing happen that everyone can get into, but it's another when the thing has a price tag attached. It's just wrong is what I'm saying, please don't do it, if the Annual pass amounted to 11GB, what's another 11 on top of Shadowkeeps actual resulting size since there's no way in hell it'll actually be 165GB (let people uninstall other languages to cut down on size too).

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    I think until Bungie admits that D2 was just a complete shadow of it's predecessor the game will never be great again. D2 will never have potential or that sense of wonder which D1 had. It's a shame they didn;t just build off of what they had in D1 then it probably would have been a smoother two years.

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    • Edited by DegradingBore11: 9/19/2019 12:37:33 PM
      Pvp has been fixed and is far superior to the pvp they messed up in d1. The weapons random rolls could be better but still better than d1. Removing exotics was part of making a new game and they reintroduce them because the community asks for it. Sometimes thy bring them back with updates perks. Raid revive system is fine, you shouldn’t be getting carried. Factions and vendors need an update. Well probably end up getting that in 2020. Hopefully. [spoiler]Sparrow horns would be great, but people would probably complain when they’re put In eververse. [/spoiler]

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      • Edited by Whopping Dingers: 9/20/2019 9:41:43 AM
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        I think towards the end of d1 with the 0 special ammo setup they really goofed up there. There obviously one shot nade issues etc etc but the special was a real bother. Personally the d2 vanilla double kinetic load out was my preferred choice for the crucible as you could actually have a half decent gun fight. The issue was the awful 4 v 4, slow generating supers, and just general slow paced feel. I know they addressed those last three things but for me the crucible is still a complete shadow of it's d1 predecessor. I feel in D1 going for your perfect roll was a bit more "rewarding" and worth the hassle, whereas with d2 there is just no incentive. Compared to legendaries there weren't that many exotics in D1 and they all should have just come over. Weapons like ice breaker and invective did screw with the meta, but those were mega iconic guns. Even something like gjallahorn, what harm would there be to bring it back. The lore and the nostalgia is enough alone. I feel their new beginning and losing all the progress really was and always will be a massive low point for them. It was a stupid idea to do that. Raids is an odd one but for me my reservations are more about tokens in hard mode. In D1 I LOVED no revives. You were at your best, your were focused, and it added that difficulty element to it. Additionally you got your hero moments. I'll never forget when 5 of us were downed in VoG at Atheon, and only one titan remained. They did a suicide fist of panic and of course died from the stomp. Why suicide? The damage done but more importantly the after shocks afterwards is what killed Atheon during the consumed by darkness countdown. I've never had that it any D2 raid. Everything is very boring and laboured. Factions and vendors...here's hoping man cause it sucks at the moment. Edit: As a warlock main everything you say about self res is 100% true. I'm glad it died with D1 and the game is better off for it. If they could bring back the radiant skin avenue that would be much better.

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