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9/19/2019 9:19:33 PM
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Crucible is in a terrible state idc what anyone says

I’ve just played 5 matches, not counting matches that I just got thrown into, which were all blowouts. 3 matches which were blowouts that people left and eventually me cause I’m not gonna play that shit.. as bad as it is I honestly wouldn’t rule out this shit being rigged some way. Crucible is far from balanced though
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    Sorry you had a rough go. It’s definitely not rigged, if you were playing Quickplay there is currently no skill factored into your matching so you are really just rolling the dice on what type of opponents you get. You can try any of the other playlists to try to get more even matches. After October 1 we are making a lot of changes to playlists, adding a solo queue to Competitive, and doing some other improvements to Crucible. Try it out and let us know if you like the changes. Thanks!

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    • Edited by SxfetyPin: 9/20/2019 6:26:31 PM
      I play mostly solo, I typically get around a 3.0 Efficiency every match I play. But regardless of that, I still hate Crucible in it's current state. I've played Destiny for it's PvP ever since Vanilla of Destiny 1 (near six years...). I've seen METAs come and go. I've seen the game at it's best and worst. But regardless of the METAs in Destiny 1, you could still use whatever you'd love to use, and see wide success due to every weapon's functionality being the same. It goes without saying that some weapons were much more difficult to use than META weapons- but the skillgap for success was extremely potent and prominent. What makes Destiny 2 so different from it though? It's how weapons actually function differently from eachother while still remaining equal in terms of Time To Kill. For example, you place a typical 150 Hand Cannon beside a Not Forgotten. Let's even say they have the exact same stats. The Not Forgotten will always be favored as it is a crutch weapon. The weapon barely kicks, has minimal bloom, you don't even have to hit the three headshots in order to gain optimal TTK. Revoker is a Sniper with guaranteed Mulligan; Extreme crutch yet again. Recluse's Master of Arms Perk makes bodyshot and headshot damage both 25, making to where you don't even need to be accurate to have the literal fastest Time to Kill in the entire game... Crutches like this didn't exist in Destiny 1. If you wanted optimal TTK, you had to be accurate. Your movement and positioning needed to be solid to avoid being hit by Snipers or teamshot. If you were at disadvantage, choosing your engagements were key, and that alone added so much depth to map knowledge. None of this depth exists in Destiny 2. Destiny 2's Crucible boils down to low-effort crutch exploit, Power Ammo, then Super. It's why regardless of TTK, and Special Weapon changes, people who loved D1 Crucible for years still despise D2's. As that feeling of skilled play is completely vacant in the current, and foreseeable Sandbox. Destiny 2 doesn't only suffer from Matchmaking consistency issues- but the way that Destiny 2 is fundamentally designed with Pinnacle Weapons, and Weapon Functionality between Archetypes has completely shattered skilled, with interesting play.

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      • I said it in another thread, but you guys seriously need to grasp this. [u]Destiny is not, and never will be, a competitive PVP experience.[/u] P2P connection, stacks vs solo, zero weapon balance, zero class balance, the list goes on and on. Go in, have fun, when you aren't having fun get out.

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        • Yeah, this game sucks

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        • Crucible was bearable in d1 but over all its been an awful experience. Trails was good until cheaters ruined it then bungie took it away, destiny isn't a fun experience anymore its a borefest and a chore. To me grinding the exactly same old crap over and over and over is the definition of insanity. I won't invest in bungie anymore because what ever I put into the game they will take away.. Ie *destiny 1 eververse items. Then bring back destiny 1 weapons that we've already used and paid for. It's nothing short of a con, a complete rip off minimise production increase revinue. And after my experience I refuse to fund or give any money to American based compony because they produce nothing but sh1t

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          • Edited by STS27: 9/21/2019 1:16:04 PM
            It's insane. Probably have played 40 IB matches this week and I bet 30 of those matches got mercy ruled one way or the other. If you get destroyed then you get no farther on that ability kill IB bounty and was a waste of time. If you're on the other end you feel like you finally get a game you can make some progress on and in 2 minutes they call it and you again, barely make progress. It's a nightmare. Edit: Noob tubes rule crucible and it feels like MW2 with One Man Army all over again. Insane.

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            • This sort of stuff is happening in all PVP games across the internet (mainly in the USA). COD and Battlefield are just as bad nowadays. You get into a match and you can get a kill no matter what you use. It's all because of the American network of ISP's. When all ISP's were allowed to shape bandwidth as they see fit, this wasn't just on the customers end. They also shape and control the bandwidth of other ISP's traffic coming thru their network. Providers will automatically switch other companies traffic through lower cost systems to save money. Some of the lowest cost systems run through cell towers and older cable systems. Its going to get worse unfortunately. With almost no regulations of standards and practices, companies can do pretty much what they want on their network. Want to see what kind of speed and pings you are really getting on your network? Next time you do a speed test, select a location across the country from where you are at. This will give you a good idea of what your ping really is on the internet. It can jump like crazy while you are testing.

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              • Oem will ruin 3v3 elim

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              • I can deal with a lot of bullshit in PvP, but the maps are just abysmal. Why haven’t they at least tweaked some maps like they did in D1? Now they are going to just remove some? That doesn’t fix the problem lol

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              • The most fun in crucible is when you think your about to get mercyed in control and end up losing 150 to 43 thats super cool. 🤣, but its really not that funny.

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              • Edited by LookAtMyMuzzle: 9/21/2019 8:29:13 PM
                Yeah, the team divisions are utterly silly. 50/50 games are great. 90-10 games are pointless. People who don't know how to play better players also leave, meaning you end up playing 2v6. Other than that, I thoroughly enjoy PvP at the moment. Sniping is fun again. Can't seem to put down my Revoker.

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              • yes is pretty trash, and no words on meaningful changes, just the changes to matchmaking .... pathetic

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              • Got all my grenade launcher kills in IB this week. Remembered I played comp at the beginning of the season for revoker. Saw glory was 1870. Holy shit, I could possibly get the mountaintop. First and only game of of comp this morning. Steamrolled 100-16. Looked at destinytracker after and saw they had an almost 200 point elo advantage. Nothing like match manipulation to keep you grinding.

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                • Best ammo economy so far. Best weapon variety so far. Maps are too small. Dominant subclasses are a problem. Gunplay still excellent. Big plays are more readily made. Definitely not perfect, definitely not worst its ever been.

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                  • How is this even NEW Did you just start playing? Trying to get a trendy post ? By talking about the same Dead Horse thats been beaten already a million times over in these forumns Bring something new to the table dude

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                  • pvp is a joke THERE IS NO SKILL REQUIRED a onion could use some of the loadouts some people use iv just been playing for just over an hour and not enjoyed one game I quit to watch TV there are to many easy ways to get kills in this game bungie need to bring back skill and bring back actual gun fights with primaries I didn't pay hundreds of £s and out in thousands of hours so some idiot with no talent can kill me with a broken loadout THIS NEEDS TO CHANGE along with all the other things wrong with pvp broken balancing lag poor map design and many other things to pvp might be in one of the worst states its ever been in cozmo if you read this I think pvp needs to be two things balanced fair and skilled for people who want to have fun and broken with ridiculous loadouts for people who are tryhards and want to feel '' powerful '' that's my take on things

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                  • I often wonder if hit registration gets tweaked after a few wins. Or possibly Aim Assist. I know Peer To Peer is just gods awful but there shouldn't be a reason why your shots are accurate on the same person but then during the next match you couldn't hit a school bus.

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                    • Oem will ruin 3v3

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                      • Today for me the issue has been lag. Outplaying people and still losing because hits aren't registering and damage isn't displaying properly. Literally the only reason Im losing games right now and its annoying

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                        [quote]I’ve just played 5 matches, not counting matches that I just got thrown into, which were all blowouts. 3 matches which were blowouts that people left and eventually me cause I’m not gonna play that shit.. as bad as it is I honestly wouldn’t rule out this shit being rigged some way. Crucible is far from balanced though[/quote] Yeah, crucible is very difficult. Especially when you just wanna screw around with a scout.

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                      • Ill give you some sincere advice man. When pvp player count is as low as it is now because its the end of season and folks take a break you should take a break from pvp too. I love pvp but usualy me as a solo player i just dont pvp much with a month left in the season before dlc drops. It has more lag, more matches of join in progress specialy the last iron banner of the season. I just focus on getting ready for next season collecting shards, cores and materials. Hunt down any god rolls in the managerie you might want or need.

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                        • Edited by Marine Iguana: 9/21/2019 6:24:55 AM
                          [quote]I’ve just played 5 matches, not counting matches that I just got thrown into, which were all blowouts. 3 matches which were blowouts that people left and eventually me cause I’m not gonna play that shit.. as bad as it is I honestly wouldn’t rule out this shit being rigged some way. Crucible is far from balanced though[/quote] For 4 quadrillionth time, WE KNOW. -blam!- will not make changes come any faster. I learned that lesson a long time ago. Just take your suffering with a grain of salt and wait until the streamers -blam!- about it.

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                        • VSVP_dub_5 You make some valid points and i agree that eververse must be removed from this game but, Whether we wanted it or not, we've stepped into a war with the Cabal on Mars. So let's get to taking out their command, one by one. Valus Ta'aurc. From what I can gather, he commands the Siege Dancers from an Imperial Land Tank just outside of Rubicon. He's well protected, but with the right team, we can punch through those defenses, take this beast out, and break their grip on Freehold.

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                          • https://imgur.com/a/90cEwjb This is what I got matched into from the start.

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                            • Iron Banner puts these issues in the spotlight

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