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I have the right to say whatever I want. This is America, chief. Wearing -blam!-ing pajamas or dressing/looking like a slob when you're talking to your customers and trying to sell a product is unprofessional. Especially, if you're a higher ranking employee. I know Seattle is a SJW, hipster, and degenerate infested shithole, but that's no excuse.
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  • Um this is the internet, not america...

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  • Edited by Pathfinder: 8/17/2019 2:24:51 PM
    Unless it's a customer facing business, which Bungie is not outside of streams or viDocs, i see no reason for uniforms or a strict dress code. Plus surely you've got ACTUAL things to be angry about such as the amount of Wars your country is unnecessarily engaging in, or the USD Debt bubble that only continues to grow and devalue all other fiat currencies. But sure, pyjamas at work, shit man that's a problem.

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  • [quote]I have the right to say whatever I want. This is America, chief.[/quote] As you may have noticed from the censorship in this post, no you cannot. This is a private website. Freedom of speech does not exist here.

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  • K.

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  • [quote]I have the right to say whatever I want. This is America, chief.[/quote] Yes, you do. ...and so do i. Your problem with how she was dressed is YOUR problem. Tech companies....and companies that deal in **creative** works are simply not formal. Especially the ones based on the West Coast. Fact is you can't regiment people like soldiers....and then ask them to be creative. People need to be relaxed and comfortable to do their best creative work. So, what she was doing was PERFECTLY acceptable in the corporat culture in which she works. ...and fi you can't accept that? Well that's unfortunate. Bungie isn't going to ask her to change....and certainly not going to ask her to change for YOUR benefit.

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  • K. No serious adult wears pajamas to work. If they're too lazy to put clothes on, that says a lot about them as a person.

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  • Edited by kellygreen2: 8/16/2019 12:59:11 PM
    She. Doesn't Work For. You. ...and if the people who sign her PAYCHECKS don't have a probloem with how she's dressed, then the fact that YOU have a problem with it is YOUR problem. Since SHE DOESN'T ANSWER TO YOU. So whatever **standards** you seem to have a bug up your butt about.....don't apply to her.

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  • She's trying to sell me a product, and she's wearing pajamas. That tells me that she doesn't value my business, and doesn't take her job seriously.

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  • She isn't trying to sell you anything....since she's NOT a sales person. She's there to DEMONSTRATE her work. [quote]That tells me that she doesn't value my business, and doesn't take her job seriously.[/quote] And that tells me that you are petty and jump to conclusions about people. I'd (personally) much rather have someone who is passionate about her work---which she clearly is----and dress unconventionally. Than have someone dress in a suit and tie....knows nothing about the product...and can barely be bothered to talk about it. Met plenty of those kind of **actual* sales reps in my line of work.

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  • She's trying to sell me her work in the form of DLC.

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  • Edited by kellygreen2: 8/16/2019 2:01:07 PM
    No, she isn't. You're having some serious role confusion. The only person in that room who was **remotely** trying to sell you something was DeeJ. She is there to demonstrate and describe her work....and as long as her behavior and dress is acceptable to the people who hired her...and PAY her? You've got nothing. She doesn't answer to you....and you're jousting at windmills Don Quixote. ..and the fact that you are singling out the only woman on that stage, despite the fact that NO ONE on that soundstage was dressed in a "professional" manner , isn't going unnoticed. Everyone there is dressed---extremely---casually. Which is clearly the corporate culture at Bungie.

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  • People just don't understand how business is different. Cue the, "well, at my Wal-Mart, wearing pjs will get you fired"... And it IS weird how no one's talking about the ripped-jeans guy... 😒😒😒

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  • [quote]She. Doesn't Work For. You. ...and if the people who sign her PAYCHECKS don't have a probloem with how she's dressed, then the fact that YOU have a problem it is YOUR problem. Since SHE DOESN'T ANSWER TO YOU.[/quote] Technically she does answer to us because we pay for her paycheck.... sooooo..... yeah.... not buying the DLC.

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  • Edited by kellygreen2: 8/16/2019 1:04:55 PM
    [quote]Technically she does answer to us because we pay for her paycheck.... sooooo..... yeah.... not buying the DLC.[/quote] Unless your SIGNATURE is on that check she cashes? [i]No you don't. [/i] ...and she isn't going to change how she dresses because you decided not to buy it. So that move only bespeaks to a certain **pettiness** and narrow-mindedness on your part. People who work in creative fields....and game development IS a creative field...are unconventional. ...and if you can't accept that, well that's unfortunate. Letting her be comfortable is how they get her best work from her....which is why they allow it. While Bungie may be answerable to you on a minimalist level, SHE---as an indvidual----isn't. And don't hold your breath waiting for Bungie to tell her to dress differently. Because they probably make more money off her by allowing her to be comfortable....than they stand to lose from you and a few narrow-minded customers pitching a snit over the fact that she isn't required to act like a corporate drone.

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  • Buddy you need to brush up on your economics. Even your own political party has been using the tactics I’ve been referring to. Come on now.

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  • I'm a software developer myself and they should not have let her on that stream dressed like that. It sends a poor message. The fact that we are having this discussion is reason reason enough for them to have not had her on that. Its bad PR no matter how you SJWs want to spin it. Yes everyone was dressed casually, but they had actual street clothes on. I don't believe anyone here is saying they expect her to be in a sun dress and and the men to be in suites. It's just not unreasonable to expect the people on the "very public" live stream to at least look presentable. Plaid pajama pants and no shoes is not acceptable attire for this type of situation. Anyone on my team can wear whatever they want to work but I draw the line at pajamas and I sure as hell would have a problem with my devs walking around in socks.

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  • [quote]I'm a software developer myself and they should not have let her on that stream dressed like that. [/quote] ..and when you have position of power at BUNGIE, you are welcome to try to enforce that dress code. But until then---as my dad used to say----[i]"This is not a democracy. This is a benevolent dictatorship." [/i] You get to have an opinion....but only Bungie's counts. ...and as I said, the West Coast corporate culture is more one based on self-expression and comfort (in order to get people's best creative work) as opposed to the Eastern and Southern emphasis on conformity and formality. [quote]The fact that we are having this discussion is reason reason enough for them to have not had her on that. Its bad PR no matter how you SJWs want to spin it.[/quote] No the fact is that---just like the culture wars----you have people sticking their noses in to what really isn't their business...and trying to CONTROL people in matters that are NOT their legitimate concern. Bottomline? Bungie's clearly okay with how she dressed. The fact that YOU aren't...is YOUR problem. Don't like it? Spend your money somewhere else. I don't think Bungie will miss it.

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  • Edited by Spooky Scary Nya: 8/17/2019 9:29:09 PM
    Only bungie’s opinion matters... until sales tank and they’re forced to backtrack.... lol. Also, what kind of dumbass logic is that? Of course Bungie will miss it. It’s another $20 they could have had in their pocket but they lost it because someone decided not to take their job seriously. L. O. L. I guess those bake-the-cake boycotters were just idiots then lmao. Their opinions don’t matter because they don’t run the store. Get your facts straight bud.

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  • Refresh my memory. Where is Activision and their publishing and marketing money right now??

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  • Did you not see the HUGE pushback from the CONSUMERS against Activision? It’s almost like the money they lost from people not buying their game was more than what Activision was paying then. Hmmm.....🤔🤔🤔

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  • Missed the point completely.

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  • No kelly, you did.

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  • No I didn’t.

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  • Consumers control the market. Not the corporations.

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  • Sure. I’m sure your $40 will put Bungie into Chapter 11.

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