If you get paid for it it's a job bud

He's just mad he cant tbh

And it's arguably more work than a normal job because you're running your own business and need to stay up to date on news, patches, events, content creation, etc

uhh, no. I guarantee you any of the muppet streamers/content creators tried any of the jobs I had or even jobs like being a roughneck, those pansy-wastes would quit within hours, be fired, or just flop over all limp like. I've done the 1% raiding in WoW back in Burning Crusade during my college years and the work that went into that, while some would consider "extensive", wasn't really all that bad, just the time dedicated to a hobby made it seem like a "normal" job. But let's cut the bullshit and quit acting like it's an actual job. Most content creators have nothing that's close to what you would consider an actual business. You literall ask people if you can use X, or you might pay an artist for content a nominal one time fee while your video goes on to generate money over time, etc, etc. You don't have employee's, 401k, insurance to worry about for many people, you don't have to worry about having a business lawyer or accountant/bank to handle big time finances. Nothing these weebs do is anything close to owning your own business. I come from a family that's owned/operated a construction company since the 60's and I can guarantee you that any influencer or content creator wouldn't last a day.

Okay.. congrats. At the end of the day it's still a job no matter how "easy" you think it is. For gods sake being a bus boy is a job and you just have to wash dishes. Just b/c they don't have to worry about employees, insurance, etc doesn't mean it's not a business. Being a streamer/youtuber falls under the entertainment umbrella. You can't compare construction to digital content creation. My parents are business owners and multiple property owners/landlords and they do not spend 80 hours working tf.

Im trying to start YouTube and streaming and dude, its rough. It takes days upon days just to get yourself set up with all your basic stuff to actually be presentable. You have to find tools you like. Depending on the type of content you're making you need to be able to write a good script, provide accurate information, give a detailed and clear open ended opinion, be funny, be spontaneous, understand current trends, predict trends, appeal to an audience, edit etc. Its hard work And anything that earns you money and a good living is a job whether you like it or not. Thats the definition of a job And it is owning your own business. Big creators make their own brand and have to have a strong public image. If you sell any kind of merch, boom business. If you do art stuff like commissions and make vids of it, thats business Many channels do have employees actually. They employ editors, general advisors, financial advisors because YouTube income can be spotty, etc. You clearly know nothing about this so stop acting like you do. Take it from someone literally studying this stuff and trying to learn how to do it for themselves

Being an arrogant self entitled dick isn't hard at all. And most streamers and you tubers are exactly that.

Then you watch all the wrong people. Actually sit down and watch a bunch of random YouTubers from every genre and walk of life and you'll see how dead wrong you are

Oh but I do from time to time and I'm almost always proven right, from Dead by Daylight to Smite to warframe, destiny, even super Mario. I could go on but you get the point. I wonder who would win the biggest douche award between dmbrandon and gladd?

Have you tried outside of gaming perhaps? Like I literally said. ALL GENRES. ALL WALKS OF LIFE

We are talking about gaming are we not? Why would Dr. Pimple Popper have anything to do with the initial conversation? You are reaching for the stars. To infinity and beyond lmao

You labeled all Youtubers and streamers as arrogant self entitled dicks so no we're talking about all of them. And again, you're simply watching the wrong people or are just sensitive and dont understand when someone actually is entitled and an arrogant dick

First off, everything here PALES in comparison to owning a real business, especially if its a business that has public shares. And hiring CONTRACTED workers to do some tasks for you IS NOT having an employee. You know nothing about running/owning a business. Tell me, what's the very first thing you do as an employer hiring someone? Have the answer? Probably not but I'll help you out. It's a background check. IE govt gets involved. You have to then also file, most commonly, a W-2/4. Also then you have to make sure state taxes are included. You also then are required, if its full time, to provide the option of insurance(s). You then also, depending on how big your company is and how valuable you consider your employee could be have to offer incentives like a 401k, matched to a certain percentage they would pay into it. You then also have to worry about lawyers/accountants to handle sometimes millions of dollars of money earned and spent. Before you want to act like picking which color palate looks best on your backdrops, maybe take a second and actually quit lying to yourself and own up to the fact you don't know shit about a real business

You're trying to compare a business in the real world to what is usually going too solely be a digital business and workspace. And we're talking about starting one at that. When you start a business unless you're loaded you're not going to be offering all that stuff, especially insurance at first. Background check is obvious, even YouTubers do it but not to such an extent with most things because they dont have that kind of access. However they themselves do check around about whoever they're bringing on board. I know that you have to file a W-2/4 and include state taxes, Ive taken classes on this stuff before lmao If the YouTube channel isn't a big company, 401ks and all that other kind of crap aren't going to be involved, thats just not how it works. Its different, especially when comparing the media/art field in the digital sense to anything else As far as a YouTuber goes, thats again like I said before something that is taken care of as well. They have to be ready with those tools due to how vulnerable of a position you can be in as a YouTuber or streamer. However none of this changes the fact that there's a job, brand, and business at play. You're netting your platform and yourself money and you have your own brand that you are pushing which is your content and its form. You can keep acting like you know everything but there are key fundamental difference to this that you're either oblivious too or straight up ignoring and it obvious. "Real" business. If it makes money that you're living off of, thats as real as it gets. Get of your fake high horse.

It's out of love and passion for something