Bungie, you guys are to be applauded for being prepared to share your views with the community as Luke just did but you still don't get it. The major problem with D2 is a static and stale loot system, it simply does not evolve. You say you think Menagerie is fantastic, and, for the first couple of weeks, you were right. But it gets old real quick. Once you've gotten your god roll weapons there's nothing to play for. Even in Heroic menagerie once you get the sword why do it again? You're just repeating the EP experience, once you got the armor and three guns, why return? After you brought back random rolls and perks logic should have dictated that you introduce that into EP, so people could farm for a different shottie etc But you didn't. By the same token, you should have a rotating loot system for menagerie. Why not introduce a menagerie auto rifle, scout rifle, rocket launcher etc. Then you could could also include a Uriel's gift, Positive Outlook, Manannan, etc as part of the farmable loot pile. Imagine how many people would return then. My friends have been farming more for a different roll of Dust Rock or Erentil than they have for actual menagerie weapons. It's ironic that, as part of the pre-launch advertising for D2, the narrative you gave Cayde was spot on, when he was doing the inspirational speech to the troops he said it was all about the loot. It's a shame you've forgotten about that.