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Edited by TheShadow-cali:
8/14/2019 3:21:13 AM
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I don't even need to read what you said. Just scrolling through this post and reading the replies says enough. Boy is this company so damn lost its actually pathetic...
Edit: When the words Datto and communication comes up about the community. Yeah, let's keep misleading the community a hell of a lot more...
Edit: 1. Dmg, by posting this and seeing Bungie's actions that have shown otherwise a lot of the time this last 2 years. All that you did was cases this post to be flooded because most know Bungie usually don't back up their own words and that alone is the case for a post like this to have a hell of a lot of negative feedback. If they want legit feedback that is positive feedback? Then tell them to stop lying to their player base and back up their own words. It's simple logic that we all are grown up with, it's just some know how to use it better than others. I mean even my 11-year-old has this down to the tee. Yet, these are adults that run the company, hmm.
Edit: 2. Just one more thing, It's not the devs that are busting their a** to create this game. I don't blame them at all because it's hard work, especially how this company is being handled constantly changing things left and right with no foundation at all to get this game moving forward. It's the higher-ups and Luke Smith along with the investment team that is the actual problem. 12 years people this project has been worked on and where have they actually gone with all the deliberate poor actions? Stop using Tess the only vendor that in 2 freaking years that has been well taken care of and not being used as her intended purpose.
https://www.bungie.net/en/News/Article/13672/7_Introducing-Eververse-Trading-Company
[quote]Our plan is to use these new items to bolster the service provided by our live team for another full year, as they grow and create more robust and engaging events that we’ll announce later this year. It has been, and continues to be, our goal to deliver updates to the game. Going forward, our live team is also looking to grow beyond vital updates and improvements to focus on world events, experiences, and feature requests.[/quote]
Learn to back up your own words Bungie...
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[quote]Again completely disagree. He represents a smaller faction of player base. I’ve got to go, but thanks for having a civil discussion. Have a good day.[/quote] I should honestly get going as well. I hope you have a good day as well. Thank you for the discussion.
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[quote][quote][quote][quote]I see, you’re pointing at the popularity of entertainment. That is meaningless and doesn’t make Datto a representative of anything but his own opinion.[/quote] The video I'm pointing to is him ranting for 13 minutes. While the rant may be entertaining, the message was well received.[/quote] The rant is him stating his personal opinion not presenting the opinion of others.[/quote] And about 22k people agreed with his opinion. So while it was his personal opinion, it also was the opinion of 22k other people.[/quote] It’s amazing you can’t figure out that clicking a thumbs up button doesn’t mean you agree with anything he said in the video or everything he said in the video. It doesn’t mean that his opinion is your opinion. He is live right now. Donate $20 and ask him if the opinions in his videos are his own opinion or a representative opinion of all players. Put your money where your mouth is.
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[quote]He is live right now. Donate $20 and ask him if the opinions in his videos are his own opinion or a representative opinion of all players. Put your money where your mouth is.[/quote] Truly. It is amazing that you can't wrap your head around what a representative is.
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[quote][quote]He is live right now. Donate $20 and ask him if the opinions in his videos are his own opinion or a representative opinion of all players. Put your money where your mouth is.[/quote] Truly. It is amazing that you can't wrap your head around what a representative is.[/quote] Yeah it would suck for you to lose $20 and be proven wrong in front of all your fellow Dittos. Datto is not a representative. He is a content creator. Now smash that like button so the algorithm gives people looking at Destiny videos Datto videos because that’s the only purpose it has. It’s not actually a vote for the opinion of the video to represent your opinion.
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[quote][quote][quote]He is live right now. Donate $20 and ask him if the opinions in his videos are his own opinion or a representative opinion of all players. Put your money where your mouth is.[/quote] Truly. It is amazing that you can't wrap your head around what a representative is.[/quote] Yeah it would suck for you to lose $20 and be proven wrong in front of all your fellow Dittos. Datto is not a representative. He is a content creator. Now smash that like button so the algorithm gives people looking at Destiny videos Datto videos because that’s the only purpose it has. It’s not actually a vote for the opinion of the video to represent your opinion.[/quote] The question is not worth $20, and I don't need to spend it to answer a question I already know the answer to. Then why are the dislikes there? Heck, why are they called "likes"? Probably because people, you know, liked it. I'll spell this out as clear as I can. - Datto voices his own opinions - Many people with their own opinions agree and subscribe, and like his videos. -Because thousands of people agree with him and like his content, Bungie looks at him becaise thousands of people agree and like his content. - This is how representatives work in politics. Someone voices their opinion, then people vote based on that opinion. - That person who the community elects is the representative
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[quote][quote][quote][quote]He is live right now. Donate $20 and ask him if the opinions in his videos are his own opinion or a representative opinion of all players. Put your money where your mouth is.[/quote] Truly. It is amazing that you can't wrap your head around what a representative is.[/quote] Yeah it would suck for you to lose $20 and be proven wrong in front of all your fellow Dittos. Datto is not a representative. He is a content creator. Now smash that like button so the algorithm gives people looking at Destiny videos Datto videos because that’s the only purpose it has. It’s not actually a vote for the opinion of the video to represent your opinion.[/quote] The question is not worth $20, and I don't need to spend it to answer a question I already know the answer to. Then why are the dislikes there? Heck, why are they called "likes"? Probably because people, you know, liked it. I'll spell this out as clear as I can. - Datto voices his own opinions - Many people with their own opinions agree and subscribe, and like his videos. -Because thousands of people agree with him and like his content, Bungie looks at him becaise thousands of people agree and like his content. - This is how representatives work in politics. Someone voices their opinion, then people vote based on that opinion. - That person who the community elects is the representative[/quote] They are called “likes” because social media uses psychological programming to gather the information they want. Pay attention here: [b]LIKES ON A YOUTUBE VIDEO ARE MEANINGLESS[/b]. There isn’t any link between content creators and elected representatives in government. There isn’t an in-game vote where players select a representative to speak to Bungie on their behalf. Instead we have a system where players can post their opinion on the game individually on the forum. Bungie uses content creators to market the game because the content generated by videos and streams markets their game for free. Luke used Datto’s video to get buy in on his premise from Datto fans. It has the opposite effect as well.
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[quote]They are called “likes” because social media uses psychological programming to gather the information they want. Pay attention here: [b]LIKES ON A YOUTUBE VIDEO ARE MEANINGLESS[/b]. There isn’t any link between content creators and elected representatives in government. There isn’t an in-game vote where players select a representative to speak to Bungie on their behalf. Instead we have a system where players can post their opinion on the game individually on the forum. Bungie uses content creators to market the game because the content generated by videos and streams markets their game for free. Luke used Datto’s video to get buy in on his premise from Datto fans. It has the opposite effect as well.[/quote] They are ALSO called likes for when people LIKE something. This is not rocket science. The vote is subscribing, viewing, and liking the videos. We both know that Well is not getting nerfed soley because of Datto, right?
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[quote][quote]They are called “likes” because social media uses psychological programming to gather the information they want. Pay attention here: [b]LIKES ON A YOUTUBE VIDEO ARE MEANINGLESS[/b]. There isn’t any link between content creators and elected representatives in government. There isn’t an in-game vote where players select a representative to speak to Bungie on their behalf. Instead we have a system where players can post their opinion on the game individually on the forum. Bungie uses content creators to market the game because the content generated by videos and streams markets their game for free. Luke used Datto’s video to get buy in on his premise from Datto fans. It has the opposite effect as well.[/quote] They are ALSO called likes for when people LIKE something. This is not rocket science. The vote is subscribing, viewing, and liking the videos. We both know that Well is not getting nerfed soley because of Datto, right?[/quote] No they are specifically called “likes” because people will click the button because it makes them feel like they are a part of the video by saying they “liked” it. It’s basic social media psychology. Maybe you think human minds and rockets are the same thing, but they aren’t. It is a completely different science based on the human mind. That’s not a vote. A vote would be an in-game vote for players to speak to Bungie on their behalf. That would be a vote. I know it’s getting nerfed because of a mistake of the designers. I know it’s their fault. The nerf isn’t the subject of the discussion.
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[quote] No they are specifically called “likes” because people will click the button because it makes them feel like they are a part of the video by saying they “liked” it. It’s basic social media psychology. Maybe you think human minds and rockets are the same thing, but they aren’t. It is a completely different science based on the human mind. That’s not a vote. A vote would be an in-game vote for players to speak to Bungie on their behalf. That would be a vote. I know it’s getting nerfed because of a mistake of the designers. I know it’s their fault. The nerf isn’t the subject of the discussion.[/quote] In life, some things have more than one purpose. False equivalence We don't have in-game votes, so we vote with our watchtime, likes, and views. You brought up the Well, not me.
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[quote][quote] No they are specifically called “likes” because people will click the button because it makes them feel like they are a part of the video by saying they “liked” it. It’s basic social media psychology. Maybe you think human minds and rockets are the same thing, but they aren’t. It is a completely different science based on the human mind. That’s not a vote. A vote would be an in-game vote for players to speak to Bungie on their behalf. That would be a vote. I know it’s getting nerfed because of a mistake of the designers. I know it’s their fault. The nerf isn’t the subject of the discussion.[/quote] In life, some things have more than one purpose. False equivalence We don't have in-game votes, so we vote with our watchtime, likes, and views. You brought up the Well, not me.[/quote] Whatever you say ✌️🤡
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[quote]Whatever you say ✌️🤡[/quote] Classic.
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Yeah, and dantdm has 18 million, not much of an influence Datto has there does he?
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[quote]Yeah, and dantdm has 18 million, not much of an influence Datto has there does he?[/quote] Proportion and audience. Datto has his base almost exclusively through Destiny, DanTDM is through Minecraft and probably roblox. Come on, you are better than that.
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[quote]Datto has well over 500k subs, gets thousands of views daily, and gets thousands of likes from Destiny players. I think he has a say.[/quote] d2ty1 comes to mind, crackerjack job on that, great job ditto
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Last I checked, Datto loves Endgame content.
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[quote]Last I checked, Datto loves Endgame content.[/quote] I’m happy for ditto
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Man, I'm starting to really like the mute option 😄
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[quote]I don't even need to read what you said. Just scrolling through this post and reading the replys says enough. Boy is this company so damn lost its actually pathetic...[/quote] Dude, you’re the one who’s lost if this is the place you go to gauge a credible reaction from the community. Get real
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Just wondering, what do you describe as credible reaction from community?
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[quote]Just wondering, what do you describe as credible reaction from community?[/quote] Datto, a no lifer that Bungie puts his "opinion" above the entire player base. That is logic at it's finest, I couldn't be more proud that 1 single person out of what, a million let's just say that has made some really dumb calls like cores being part of the infusion.
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As I lay to sleep I pray that datto and his dittos don't play borderlands 3 .
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[quote]As I lay to sleep I pray that datto and his dittos don't play borderlands 3 .[/quote] Oh dear lord, don't even whisper it.
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[quote]As I lay to sleep I pray that datto and his dittos don't play borderlands 3 .[/quote] 😄
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[quote][quote]Just wondering, what do you describe as credible reaction from community?[/quote] Datto, a no lifer that Bungie puts his "opinion" above the entire player base. That is logic at it's finest, I couldn't be more proud that 1 single person out of what, a million let's just say that has made some really dumb calls like cores being part of the infusion.[/quote] He has several hundred thousands of subs and gets thousands of views daily. And he gets thousands of likes. He speaks for the community more than you do. Where's your following?
