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7/13/2019 3:09:45 PM
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This was one of the larger reasons why there was a large population fall off. And when Bungie started leaning the game towards “hardcore” oops we shut sbmm off......great players curb stomping average players loved it and defended.....why because it was easy for them. Easy equals fun. Average? Frustrated and disgusted. Came to the forums and got told to get good....etc etc etc.....and here is what’s left today the top 5% most of which are at 2000+ glory. Now left with almost nothing left but good players and oh hey it’s not so fun anymore.....the vast majority of average players average meaning 1 k/d or less and yes that is in fact average amongst all fps shooters are loooong gone. I haven’t stepped foot even once because of the setup for comp. But who cares right? I should go get good right? I decided I am as good as I am going to get. And I am ok with that. And until this game tips the balance to be at least balanced between the good and great players I won’t be back.
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  • Honestly I am not going to debate this with people who are happy with the game as it sits. I will concede one important point you do have every right to enjoy the game you help create. But it doesn’t make either one of us wrong in our points of view. And since Bungie has made their direction clear and that is to side with you the position is moot either way. But if Bungie ever is to regain all they lost things will have change. Or maybe they are happy with a much smaller slice of pie. At any rate I am not going to have a have have not debate. Yes guys you are right the problem is me. You win.......but I assure you Bungie is the one losing. Unless of course they are become a Chinese mobile game designer.......

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  • You have sbmm in rumble, banner, rotating playlist and have a form of it for comp. Sorry that 1 playlist doesnt go your way but qp is performing exactly like social playlists across all shooter including cod, halo ans even fortnite do. If 1/5 playlists not being catered to you is enough reason to quit then dont let the door hit you on the way out

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  • Edited by drew012278: 7/14/2019 7:41:53 AM
    No I am just saying comp is the worst of it. QP used to be a place to relax. Mess around win some lose. Now it’s almost always a landslide. It’s exactly QP the screwed up. There is no sbmm in any of those game types you mentioned. None and you won’t convince me there is. And it’s not just me....I am just one of the few left with another care to say something. The others they already spoke. Shhhh if you listen carefully you can just hear them.....(nothing but crickets) but no no by all means call me idk what ever stereo type your using these days. And cod or just about any other FPS out there I can still go in and win some lose some. Here not so much........and don’t even get me started about what a pile of crap map design is oooof. 3n3 4v4 6v6 all on maps designed for 8 no no seriously their not “catering” to me please do go on. I am a snowflake or I should go get good or what ever other pile of crp I have heard over and over

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  • [quote]QP used to be a place to relax. Mess around win some lose. Now it’s almost always a landslide. It’s exactly QP the screwed up.[/quote] No. Its working like a social playlist should. You can relax as much as ever, if you consider shooting opponents and them shooting you back as fun then you're good, if you only consider winning fun then you'll have to fight for it. [quote]There is no sbmm in any of those game types you mentioned. None and you won’t convince me there is.[/quote]Yes there absolutely is, I guess you deny if the sky is blue or if water is wet too? [quote]And cod or just about any other FPS out there I can still go in and win some lose some. Here not so much[/quote]You can also go into qp and "win some lose some" If you're losing every game you play then theres 1 common denominator right? You must be doing something wrong? [quote].......and don’t even get me started about what a pile of crap map design is oooof. 3n3 4v4 6v6 all on maps designed for 8 no no seriously their not “catering” to me please do go on. I am a snowflake or I should go get good or what ever other pile of crp I have heard over and over[/quote]D2 maps were designed for 4vs4 lol Sbmm caters to the bottom 50% 3/5 playlists have sbmm and 1 has rank based mm. So 80% of pvp caters to the bottom half. More the enough

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  • Edited by drew012278: 7/14/2019 12:59:26 PM
    And one more last bit of knowledge. For you. Water is not actually wet in it’s solid form it’s cold and in its gas form it’s warm. And the sky as a whole isn’t blue it just appears that way most of the time. But not always. See you debate as if both points are black and white and as I have just countered with there is always shades of grey. Mid teens early twenties male is my guess I was there once too. So I get it. But no. And that’s all I have for you. Now I do realize at this point in your life you will likely laugh me off but eventually you will see what I am saying. Either way best of luck and take care

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  • I will debate one last point. And I am not going to copy and paste all your points because I did read them and I have enough reading retention to not have to try throw your words back at you to debate a point. I will not be that rude to you. But you say the one constant is me right? Must be me if I am losing all my matches by a landslide right? Maybe I broke my thumbs in a car wreck and they just don’t work anymore right? There is nothing else that changed right? Alls I will close with is LOL. And I wouldn’t expect less than defending ones right to be wrong. There is in fact another constant and it’s not me. See me I am taking my money elsewhere. And oh I am not alone I was just forgotten.....yes that’s a pun enjoy your game it’s all yours.

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  • Why I even began this debate with those defending their right to enjoy the game they help make is totally beyond me. I usually know better. Enjoy your not forgotten. But I notice 0 glory this time around. Don’t want to go back in? Why not? Never mind as I said I am not doing this. PVP has become unplayable for average players. Bungie is struggling for good sales numbers. I wonder why........

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  • The problem is that all PVP in this game is broken. Doesn't matter..QP, IB, rumble ect....either it's go into a match in progress that's a complete blow out , go in 5 vs 6 or just end up constantly facing top tier players with 5 kd's vs my barely even kd at 1.08 and get pub stomped...and no this isn't a solo vs stacks debate as friends should be able to play together.

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  • Lol good players liked SBMM turned off because we could finally play well connected matches instead of the game saying "oops nobody on your continent is the same skill as you so here are players from the other side of the planet".

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  • Exactly

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  • Believe it or not the two aren’t mutually exclusive one doesn’t have to supersede the other they can in fact work concurrently. However Bungie did it to further appeal to the “hardcore” and now here they are having a community summit to figure out why preorder sales were so low.....it’s not mystery to me and activision saw it coming. And I saw it coming from activisions departure

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  • [quote]Believe it or not the two aren’t mutually exclusive one doesn’t have to supersede the other they can in fact work concurrently.[/quote]Tell bungie that not me.[quote]However Bungie did it to further appeal to the “hardcore” and now here they are having a community summit to figure out why preorder sales were so low[/quote]They did it just to spite you I'm sure. I bet it isn't because they determined that was what the majority wanted. Maybe you weren't around for the thousands of threads begging them to keep SBMM out when it first was accidentally patched out of QP.[quote]it’s not mystery to me and activision saw it coming. And I saw it coming from activisions departure[/quote]Lol the one person in the world that sees activision as a good thing for bungie.

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  • Oh no I am not alone the others are just gone. Why? They got tired of abuse here and in game. Wonder why?

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  • Lol abuse...ok. Such a victim, he couldn't compete so he and babies like him left...oh noes.

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  • Use of the word “babies” yes abuse verbal bashing in a game that is meant to be enjoyed and when the enjoyment stops the came here to voice their concerns and met with people like you. And said the hell with it and quit it wasn’t fun anymore. And now Bungie is having another community summit shortly after pre order sales opened up for shadow keep wonder why? I know why? Don’t bother replying to me. I am going to do the adult thing and end this discussion by muting you. Take care and let’s see what happens next. I am betting Bungie can’t take to many more sales hits.

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  • Member when sbmm was in d1 [spoiler]pepperidge farm remembers[/spoiler]

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  • It was a lag fest. If you think D2's lag is bad than you never played D1. 😩

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  • Yes I’m aware of that lol

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  • I didn't mean you specifically, I meant people in general.

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  • Edited by drew012278: 7/14/2019 1:09:16 AM
    Ya bro or sis, you won some you lost some but it wasn’t constant slaughter with tbags and get good. Blah. Bungie can honestly keep this trash it’s not even worth free. I need the hard drive space back.....

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