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Edited by linuxrules415: 7/28/2019 12:24:13 AM
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Matchmaking still is garbage

Bungie are you ever going to acknowledge that your matchmaking is beyond broken? Despite hundreds (if not thousands) of posts in the last several months on here, Reddit, YouTube, Twitter ect... and losing hundreds of thousands of players due to this one issue. Outside of a video with Luke Smith saying that crucible is being reworked from the foundation up.. but no info as to what's going on... you've not responded to anybody on this issue at all. You say you want feedback from the players, you say you want suggestions on improving the game. Well it's about time to engage... Edit...weeks later and still zero response from Bungie despite dozens more posts and legitimate complaints... ignoring the problem does not make it go away.

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  • Edited by ScottF 2112: 7/13/2019 5:01:20 AM
    It has always been like this. I think this must be how they want it to work. You can see from Destiny Tracker data that it would be really easy to have balanced matches. I kind of suspect they don't want balanced matches, but rather want a certain minimum win % for everyone to keep them engaged.

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    • Edited by Organic Machine: 7/16/2019 1:45:44 AM
      I just got put in a Gambit Prime match where the other team’s Primeval was below half health and the team I was put on had zero motes banked and were still fighting blockers. One guy just ran to a corner and used a seat emote and sat down. It lasted about 3 minutes. If that happens once, to anyone, ever, the system is fundamentally broken. Why would there not be something in place to prevent a player from being placed in a match that’s about to be over, and on the losing team at that?

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      • Yet you're still playing

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        • [quote] Outside of a video with Luke Smith saying that crucible is being reworked from the foundation up.. [/quote] Yup. New coat of paint will fix everything. Or maybe make everyone sparkle. The reality is they won't fix anything structural (like Regional Dedicated Host Servers instead of peer to peer from their Halo days), just cosmetic.

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          • Most of what they were talking about is happening in the next expansion, or at the very least its going to happen at the start of the solstice next week. Or like last year when forsaken dropped they made all the game sandbox changes a week early. Its still a little far out to ask them what the are working on atm but i REALLY hope the push out the armor updates a week early

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            • I consistently get matched against Russians in PVP... I live in the UK. Euro PvP population must be seriously dying if that's the closest players they can find to me. Seriously on the verge of quitting PVP altogether with how ridiculously bad the hit registration and the delays are playing against these guys, add this ****ing invisibility glitch on top of that...

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              • All we need is dedicated servers.. Solo players choose to play solo and not make fire teams/friends it seems. Solo players gotta realize what a mmo is, cuz if they don't I fear for them in the future. You think it's bad for solo players now just wait..

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                • Destiny is garbage in general.

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                  • Like anybody believes what Luke Smith says anymore......

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                  • This shit is never gonna change. They don’t care at all That’s why people leaving this shit

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                  • This was one of the larger reasons why there was a large population fall off. And when Bungie started leaning the game towards “hardcore” oops we shut sbmm off......great players curb stomping average players loved it and defended.....why because it was easy for them. Easy equals fun. Average? Frustrated and disgusted. Came to the forums and got told to get good....etc etc etc.....and here is what’s left today the top 5% most of which are at 2000+ glory. Now left with almost nothing left but good players and oh hey it’s not so fun anymore.....the vast majority of average players average meaning 1 k/d or less and yes that is in fact average amongst all fps shooters are loooong gone. I haven’t stepped foot even once because of the setup for comp. But who cares right? I should go get good right? I decided I am as good as I am going to get. And I am ok with that. And until this game tips the balance to be at least balanced between the good and great players I won’t be back.

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                    • I believe they recently acknowledged that crucible isn’t in a good spot and they wanted to build it from the ground up again. Supposedly there will be “new” changes to every aspect of pvp coming before September. Really hoping they stick to their word. I’m horrible at pvp but I sure do enjoy it at times. Crossing my fingers

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                      • Bungie are just useless when it comes to match making the devs who are suppose to be doing it need to be fired like in any job you fk up so many times you pay the price

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                      • I don't do crucible, I really dislike it but I feel your pain. There are things they could do, like level and skill match making but also make it easier for you to find a team. So much they could do to make this game better. For me the biggest is Match Making for Nightfalls and Raids...... actually match making for everything... I'm sure you all know, I've said this A LOT... I have no doubt this will get down voted... as it usually does.

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                        • Absolutely nonexistent, f’n terrible matchmaking, if any, that takes skill out of the game and replaces it with luck, lucky that you get a decent team, lucky if you do not match against a bunch of no lifer sweats, lucky if no one bails at the first hint they may lose.

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                        • There are a ton of great things in this game, however there are three major problems which will keep me as well as my team from buying any future products. 1. RNG -- Complete joke in this game. Bungie DOES NOT respect players time 2. Matchmaking - Complete trash, tried to get 5 friends to join with the refer a friend program. All 5 got totally stomped in either Crucible or Gambit. All 5 did not purchase and refuse to play 3. P2P - No dedicated servers = Bungie's lack of commitment to the crucible. Not only is matchmaking horrible, but sadly, the person with the worst connection wins. Once upon a time I posted often about these issues, Bungie never replies. I'm done with Destiny unless these items are addressed. I don't want to hear they will eventually fix. Over 15 MILLION have purchased this game. Typically less than 300K play daily when bounties don't force users into crucible. Bungie's management is terrible, silence is not a solution. Me keeping my money will be my solution. Enough is enough.

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                        • Dont worry man. After you and your team get lambasted you can at least rest assured knowing that they will break up the teams to ‘find a better match’. After literally every single match. Lmfao what a joke.

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                        • There are no problems with matchmaking though? -Matchmaking for gambit - teams searching play higher skill solos -Matchmaking for the rotational playlist - sbmm -Matchmaking for iron banner - sbmm -Matchmaking for rumble - sbmm -Matchmaking for qp - fastest available game vs players of all tiers -Matchmaking for comp - glory based These playlists are running as intended and indeed as they should

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                        • Nope, matchmaking is fine.

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                        • Edited by Wyvris: 7/13/2019 5:44:41 PM
                          Honestly, you could say a sweat like myself (Note: I've been given that title by other people) would be benefiting the most from it, but it's just not that fun. Farming people simply because they're being outskilled isn't fun for either person involved. I played a game earlier where I went 36 and 8. That's a 4.5 kd. Yeah sure, it was a good game, but it just wasn't that engaging for anyone, just a clean sweep. Crazy thing is, after you look at the elo of each member of each team, you see what's wrong. The top player on their team had an elo of 1342, whilst the top player on my team (That would be me) had an elo of 1923. A 300 point difference. Even the averages were screwed. 1194 to 1360. Something has to be changed. For those that don't know what elo is: [spoiler]Elo is used by a lot of stat tracking websites as a way to see performance. It takes into account how you do, if you win or lose, etc and then gives you an amount of elo based on those factors. The higher the number, the better. [/spoiler]

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                          • Not putting large fireteams up against teams of solo players would help immensely. This is game breaking. Probably more than half of games in QP is teams of solos going up against 3 person or higher fireteams. It almost always results in the fireteams completely dominating. It would seem simple algorithms would easily separate fireteams from solos in matchmaking. But it seems the matchmaking takes a fireteam, then fills the lobby with solo players.

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                            • destiny tracker can make better games. its' not a flaw it's a feature. they're fixing games.

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                              • At the end of the day. 1 team is going to win, 1 team is going to lose and the team that loses. Chances are, one or more will be salty they lost and think match making is broken. There are people on this game that know how to point and pull the trigger. Then there are people that look back and forth, panic, get shot first, then start shooting, die and rage. I was playing with a guy yesterday, trying to help him get wins. He was 200 glory. He literally can't get higher than 200 glory lol. I helped him lose two more lol but then got a win. But it wasn't my fault. It was bungies. I went into spectating mode in the 2 loses. They need to fix that bullshit. Teamwork helps out in this game. Knowing how to point and shot helps to. Dealing with the guy I was dealing with. He still had the mindset everyone is good, they are OP and any shit weapon they had on was a god roll. Don't think like this. But I agree, match making is dogshit. If I am 2000+ glory. Put people at 2000+ glory on my team as well. Nothing less and don't make me match against 5500+ glory full fire team. There needs to be a better bracket system. Just not enough people playing to reduce match making times.

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                                • It's broken beyond belief. Just played a comp match 2vs4. Yeah that's really fair. I should totally lose glory because matchmaking failed to make the teams equal

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                                • Get farmed #livestock

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                                • So is the whole game

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