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6/25/2019 10:54:21 AM
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why is sleeper even in the raid together with telesto?!
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  • So casuals like yourself can drive the struggle bus to victory. Good luck. I hope get farmed in Hard mode SOS All the best livestock

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  • Like Hell I‘m going to raid for weapon catalysts who don’t even belong in the raid. On top of that the same weapon got -blam!-ed with the nerfs!

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  • Not really. You casual. They increased the body shot damage to bosses. Having 13 bullets of sleeper is really nice. It's really good if you can land your shots.

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  • Oh my Oh my... someone doesn‘t know how to respond towards others on the forum. I‘m not gonna argue anymore. either way it’s bungie only who decides what happens with the catalysts.

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  • Sleeper is amazing it's worth the grind for the cat in my opinion. Casuals like yourself who can't land shots think otherwise but it's fine enjoy your game and I'll enjoy mine.

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  • I‘m going to tell only one more thing... I‘m not not raiding because it’s hard (actually it was fun) I‘m not raiding, because there are always people like you.

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  • Explain casual?

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  • If I‘m a casual... that would make you a Neet. [spoiler]Go get your life. It’s running away![/spoiler]

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  • Yeah you say that but your on bungie forums too. If you really valued your time you would not throwing around your casual opinion and being argumentative. #livestock

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  • 👍 I was going home from work unlike you:)

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  • Point proven. I have a job.

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  • That shows how much you know about the game. Casual.

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  • Let him know!

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  • Because. The prestige modes needed a catalyst to make them worth doing. So Bungie took the fan favorite of the exotic weapons that came out in that season and put the catalyst in the raid. Telesto came out in Osiris, so EOW got Telesto Catalyst. Sleeper came with Warmind, so Spire got Sleeper Catalyst. Not that hard to follow. Made prestige worth grinding, in addition to double loot drops and the power level 400 weapon drops. Should have been there I guess.

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  • so basically it’s bungie logic... I see. I joined in forsaken, that’s why I struggled to understand why the not raid weapons got a catalyst in the raid. that’s so sad 😞.

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  • My answer to the problem wouldn’t be to take the catalysts out of those raids, but actually to reprise the Raids. Make it worth doing again and people will not be motivated to do them for the catalysts alone. My view at least.

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  • I was there. Been playing D2 since it came out. The EOW lair only drops 380 gear. The Solstice event dropped 400 gear. I played through the prestige modes several times and didn't get the catalyst. Like I said, these days a majority of people don't like playing the old lairs because they aren't rewarding as the new raids.

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  • Edited by Doctor_Roidberg: 6/25/2019 11:24:26 AM
    Prestige Raid Lairs and Solstice went hand in hand. Prestige EOW and Spire dropped 400 WEAPONS. Solstice set was the 400 ARMOR. Between the two you could be at 400 when Forsaken dropped. But you could only get 400 weapons from the Prestige Lairs. And you’re not wrong on the last part of not as many people playing the old content, but it doesn’t mean we should eliminate ALL reason to play old content. Hell they should reprise the Leviathan. Leave the catalysts where they are.

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