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6/25/2019 3:14:35 AM
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On Heroic Menagerie.

Yeah.... it's not gonna go over well. Making it non-matchmade was a good move, but even if you can get a group of people you trust to do their job, Heroic Menagerie is gonna be PAINFUL. Firstly, extinguish. There was a reason this modifier got taken off the nightfall playlist, so why in Shaxx's name would you put it on an even harder activity?! WHY? Battling a 770 boss when the max you can be is 750 is bad enough, but to be sent back to orbit if you fail to kill it, or even worse, be sent back if you fail on the previous encounters, is gonna feel horrible. The other problem we may have... Blackout... Please, god, don't let this modifier make it to heroic mode. Otherwise, the Riposte and the Hunted are going to be damn near impossible to get done, unless you're literal gods. Hell, even the Crystals is probably gonna be hell and half with this mod on, cause of how small the room is. You can put any other mod on heroic mode, just NOT this one, Bungie. PLEASE.
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  • nah, all fine.. just dont play during blackout, since thats the only data that bungie will abide by.. and no matchmaking will have the "playlist" die out , well knowing that there is none.. nah. the biggest and most problematic thing is: there is no reason to play that and go through the pain of trying to find a team that neither sucks nor sets up the standard "MKWTD must have 250000+ clears, will check raidreport" bullcrap.. i do understand where the players that set up those requirements are coming from but thats the wrong angle.. all those mechanics have been tested and tuned to fit the PC version of the game where you can snipe with the recluse across the map and do constant damage to any enemy cross map with a machine gun .. (and sadly i am not even making this shlt up, just see some videos and compare the "2 manned XXX" or "solo guide to XXZ" for entries that go with the pc versus console.. PC is a complete different game. and the modes need to be tuned differently. so back to managerie heroic: - enemies are 30 LL over you whic means that "YAY" the developers have run out of ideas to actually make content more difficult and reverted to just make enemies more bullet spongy.. cool, not.. - encounters are absolutely the same.. *great - your a$$ gets booted to orbit.. -.- oh wait.. its not the issue that you have to start over.. its that you are send OUTSIDE the game activity !. faling is okay. no problem with that.. wiping becaus eall of your team is dead is COMPLETELY OKAY! whats not okay is that you will have to get back into the activity and load in all over.. just return the fireteam to the freaking start and we are good here. - blackout .. well okay just screw that.. -.- you couldnt be bothered to invent at elast ONE modifyer for that thing -.- - loot.. LOL.. i really.. no.. just no.. "loot" is the fuel for an activity.. and where reckonign at least had some minor halfa$$ed weapons and mods , the menagerie has literally nothing new.. apart from an emblem that noone cares and a damn ugly cheap patched on turf ship. yeaaah! no. not yea.. in fact the three swords that can drop and some masterworked stuff that really is not that great is not worth putting in the time to run.. put in Lunas howl as a random drop and you just have to deal with the saltstream from the whiney, crying pvp crowd while you will have all those PvE players that would suddenly flock to this activity since they could not be bothered to pierce their balls.. err i mean play competitive and reach a gory rank in the meanwhile near impossible without streamer P2W support crowd ..legend region.. ( i mix those two activities so often since both of them are simply equaliy painfull and mind numbing dull ) and to the pvp crowd? what? its not like the PvE guys would use it in PvP ? or? and its not that "big of a deal anyway" since "only skillz matterz" isnt it? so dont -blam!- your pants pvp you are safe in there .. noone wants to go there sicne its like toxic wasteland for non sweats =) so back to menagerie again: Dear Bungie, you just put out a new mode thats been sentenced to death by boredom, lack of incentive and lack of accessibility =) sincerely the Reckoning tier 3 -

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    • But you can get swords in the loot pool. These are absolutely ideal for running up to a boss and being stomped back into next week 👍 🤦‍♂️

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      • Went in with a group of 6 on comms who had just beat the CoS raid blind (no-one had looked up any strats, weapons or anything to do with the raid). We all got destroyed on the Gauntlet section when the void spamming Vex Hydra spawned in the middle, despite being in a Well of Radiance. It made it impossible to hit the boss for any length of time as the void blasts made recoil absurd. Does Bungie only test shit on PC now or what? At this point I wouldnt reccomend getting Destiny 2 unless you play on PC, unless Bungie pull their thumb out their ass and lower recoil for consoles. This shit needs fixing asap.

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      • I'm confused by the amount of people who seem to want to do end game pve, but are opposed to actually sorting out a regular team for themselves.

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      • Edited by Sarah_Stardew: 6/25/2019 10:31:37 AM
        "Just use LFG!!!" "Must have 10+ clears, be 750+ (why the +? Are you stupid?), emblem or kick, die = kick" .... 2 hours after release. And you guys wonder why people don't like LFG. Toxic cesspool is why.

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        • Oh no god forbid you get sent back to orbit if you die, you clearly never played d1 where that was the case with the nightfall every week and no one complained about it. Suck it up an retry it if you lose or don’t even attempt it at all no one is forcing you to do it and therein lies one of the biggest problems with this game in d1 you were forced to do the nightfall/raid every week if you wanted to reach the max light level, in d2 everything is basically handed to players on a silver platter. Hell you could literally only do the flashpoint every week and eventually hit max power level if you wanted, there isn’t enough gameplay barriers in this game when compared to d1 and I honestly think that’s what lead to the vile community we now have because people think they’re top shit just cause they know how to do the raid and only want others that also know how to do it to join them. Newsflash: congratulations you put in extra unnecessary work and time to reach the same level as everyone that doesn’t raid. Want a bigger player base? Make endgame content the only way to achieve max power level. Want to unify the player base? Make endgame content the only way to achieve max power level. I for one loved helping out first timers with the raids in d1 because not only did it give me a sense of accomplishment for taking on the challenge of a harder raid due to first timers not knowing what they were doing but also because I knew I was letting those first timers get a taste of what the game is really all about: the endgame.

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          • I did it with a group on LFG and we did it first try and only did 2 encounters.

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          • Edited by swankybutters: 6/25/2019 8:45:03 AM
            Well I think they should make Menagerie Clan and LFG only... Can't take the risk. As a matter of fact, why are you allowed to even fly into any planet without a Clan or a group? Everything should be Clan - LFG only, as bungie and the hard cores really want it to be. I take it back, no LFG anymore either... Just Clans, if you're not in a clan, you can't play... Yeah, that's the ticket.

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            • Already have 3 clears on this.. its easier then you think.. the boss just takes forever to kill but its possible. luna wells and tractor with swarm downs all bosses simply. i got the izanamis catalyst first pull :)

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              • there is a fail state for Heroic mode so all u need is 1 or 2 bad players to ruin it for the whole team, when u matchmake u always get 1 rotten teammate, plus u could always get a afk player or a griefer. This is the right move on bungies part.

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              • Edited by GMDeece7: 6/26/2019 5:54:04 AM
                It’s not that bad. Have 2 clears already. I’m thinking about doing it more this week to see if it is possible to get more then 1 masterworked roll, or if it is possible, with the right rune combination, to get a curated roll (looking at the LMG). I also want the ship and sword for both my titan and hunter. Wish me luck everyone! I wish the same luck upon all of you. Good luck and gods speed guardians. You can do this!

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              • First lfg we died at boss. 2nd lfg we beat it. Disappointed in heroic. Should drop higher light

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              • You're really underestimating how good some people are at this game.

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                • I feel like you're being a -blam!-. You want easy end game content? Sure, take it. Because once you get the cata, there is LITERALLY no reason to play that ever again. I exchange, don't complain about the next end game content that's actually good.

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                  • On Blackout, it's guaranteed death if you get hit by a knight's sword or the Knight champion's slam. The knight champion in Menagerie has a much faster attack cycle than the other knights.

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                  • It's the best thing they've put into this game. Screw matchmaking make your own team it takes 2 minutes.

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                  • I've done it with an LFG group. Not that bad, honestly. Lots of Wells and Tethers, maybe a Commander Sentinel. Just sad I haven't finished my cup yet, so no Izanagi Catalyst for me. Yet.

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                  • I just did it....... We got to the boss in three encounters but it wasn’t easy at all. You just need to play very conservatively. The boss fight is VERY difficult. You need to watch out for: Goblin Waves(Phase 1-3) Hobgoblins(Phase 2-3) (less frequent in phase 3) Hydras(Phase 3) You will need a bubble titan and a well warlock to have any chance of success. Honestly the toughest thing is managing hobgoblins. They can easily two shot you if unchecked. Finally, the fight will take a LONG time, like a really long time. I took my group 45 minutes to do it.

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                  • Rubbish can be done with randoms no mic on lfg all at 750 i did it proof :)

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                  • Oh no more endgame content to work towards. Whatever will people do?

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                  • Edited by Yuno: 6/25/2019 11:28:16 AM
                    A pve activity that seems actually challenging which is something we have never experienced except with high score nightfalls and self imposed challenges??? Too hard!

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                  • I agree with everything you said, but I’m gonna have to say grounded is the worst. It completely restricts vertical movement and forces you to stay on the ground. *coming from a perigrine titan :)

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                  • Despite the modifiers, power handicap, etc. Some of my most memorable/fun experiences in destiny came from some of the hardest content. Day 1 forges, prestige spire, prestige EOW, etc. Etc. Facing what seems like an impassible challenge but putting your heads together and figuring out what works and what doesn't, coming up with crazy sht and finding that it works and beating the challenge after hours of hard work. Saying to yourself, flight yea, I beat this. Those are the times that I remember and enjoy this game for. For all those whining because they are to lazy or stupid to actually enjoy hard content, please keep it to yourself.

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                  • I hate blackout but honestly grounded is more a thorn in my side especially because jumping diagonally away is engrained in my playstyle to get away from things. And you are off the ground far more than you realize (small bumps, stairs, falls, ground pound melee’s)

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                  • Done. Easy enough. Could easily do that with matchmade 750s.

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                  • Might just be me but... Extinguish is what I've been wanting back as a mandatory modifier for nightfalls, I'm so happy it's back in a harder activity, for once in this game we can have a challenge!

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