tl;dr - It was fun, but not looking forward to doing it again. Overall I found the quest fun. I did it first on my warlock - running Crown of Tempest with grenade mods made the grenade section slightly easier, but it was a grind. I plan to collect the set by focusing on a different character each time IB comes around. Auto rifle and scout rifle kills were a bit aggravating. Not looking forward to doing those steps again. It was really fun to play with off-meta weapons, but it really shows how the sandbox is setup with meta weapons being well... meta. My K/D drastically suffered and sometimes I went an entire match with 1-2 kills of the weapon I was working on because the TTK is so slow. It is a bit annoying to grind out a really cool looking armor set, only for it to become worthless in amour 2.0 since this set won't have the new mod system. There is an issue with the vendor loot pools - adding an option to choose armor or weapons would be a major QOL upgrade (across all vendors. I have no need for Vanguard armor sets but a better service revolver would be nice. It's a complete waste of vendor tokens).

Can you bring the emblem I’m only showing off 2500 kills with iron burden

1. The Quest is fine....the problem is that the rewards aren't worth the time or the effort. 2. If you are going to have a quest to obtain armor...then it need to be MUCH shorter and MUCH simpler, since legendary armor only has a modest impact on game play. IOW, you're asking people to grind all season for what is basically cosmetics...and an outside chance at enhanced gear perks. 3. If you are going to have a season long quest of this length and difficulty....then it needs to be for a PINNACLE weapon. Or a strong exotic armor piece. 4. The quest is highlighting how UNDERPOWERED many weapons and abilities are in PVP. As well as how OP roaming supers are in terms of damage resistance. As OP as people claim LoWs is...it still struggles to shutdown supers on console. Tracking grenades and stick grenades are ridiculously underpowered. In D1...players used to try to move Heaven and Earth to get away from axion bolts because they posed a legitimate threat. Therefore they were effective at breaking up team shooting. Forcing teams to spread out, and punishing/softening up corner campers. But now----unless that grenade's been charged----most people dont' even bother to try to avoid them. They simply tank the damage. Since the grenades pose very little real risk. 5. The IB loot system shows---once again----that you guys don't understand that RANDOMNESS and GENEROSITY have to go hand in hand. The more layers of RNG you put into a system....and the deeper the loot system becomes...THE HARDER IT BECOMES TO ACQUIRE ANY SINGLE, PARTICULAR ITEM. So you either need to become more generous in handing out loot to compensate.....or allow some minor degree of re-rolling traits. Otherwise you create a situation where people quit in frustration. Take the Division 1. They tried to extend the life of that game prior to their patch 1.8 by being withholding and having people grind for very rare Classified gear sets. Sets that only had a 3% chance of dropping per boss kill. One problem. there were 6 gear sets....and 6 armor pieces per set. So what that meant was that you only had about ONE chance in 1200 PER BOSS KILL of getting any particular item to drop...and that didn't even consider whether the item had the perks you wanted. Just flat out 1200 to 1 odds of simply GETTING the thing at all. Once I did the math....I walked away from the game...and basically stayed away.

I found the requirement for the sniper really ruined iron banner, as I don't find the weapon type enjoyable and facing an opponent with it ruins a gun fight. Grenade was easy enough with hand-held supernova but should had only requires half of what it was/is.

What I disliked about the quest is that it is a quest in the first place. My suggestion is that instead of "hey you want armor then you have to do this long quest steps that are not retroactive " that you make weekly weapon bounties with focus in general gunplay and gameplay execuation. And weekly armor bounties that are focused in gameplay execuation and different especific task related to gunplay

I managed to get through the quest steps on all three characters but I did little else all week. It was quite the grind for an average PvP player and the grenade kills took the longest. On a different note, I would love to see some of the more popular exotic armor sets get ornaments themed to match the IB Truage set. Stomp EE5 and Dunemarches don't pair well with the look.

I would guess about 10 of the 45 matches were joined mid match, plus there's always the 'I'M CALLING THIS' from Saladin lol. I mained a Warlock and bounced between voidlock (using axion bolts with Controverse holds) or sparkylock with pulses.

Thanks for the comments. Really appreciate the overview of your discussion, it lets us know our feedback is making it back to the developers.

This quest wouldn't have been bad if it were able to be completed all at once. If you were working on multiple steps at a time instead of finish one then go on to the next there wouldn't be that much backlash.

For the iron banner engram you get for turning in tokens why not make it so you can either turn in your tokens to get a guaranteed weapon or get guaranteed armor

Please dont change this quest, its not fair on those that grinded it out week one.

Just so we’re clear up front, I really like IB. I feel like i’m playing against more people my own skill level than quick play. This quest line does have issues as noted by others as follows: 1. Grenades - takes a long time, perhaps drop the count a bit? 2. Sword kills - I realize it only takes eight if you do yourself but those are soul killing, got to camp the power brick, fight with other team members for it, and then get one good shot at a kill. While your trying to get the power brick, your team is getting crushed because your not helping much. Tools over 25 losing events to get 8 kills. Appologies to all those who were my team mates. Why have this in here? Perhaps change to any power weapon kills? 3. Final step getting only one count for a win or loss, have you guys gimped people on this step, I virtually stopped getting strings of wins when starting this. Maybe give one point for a loss and two for a win?

Handheld Supernova is ridiculously good as well. In fact once I switched to that from Arc web I completed that part of the quest in a couple of games.

Thank you for this

I liked the random reward system that your team can watch during the end of the match. but also a addition of exotics or ships whatsoever

Im up to 690+ now, my main issue was expectation that this would be a 2 hour grind to get the 690 gear. No way, not from the 360 ish Light i was at anyway. Oh, one more issue. Infusing is STOOPID EXPENSIVE. Basically a guarantee, that even at 690+, it wont be with properly configured gear for PVP!

To Bookworm: Dude. Lvl up your Reading comprehension lol. I just came BACK to destiny. I have spent an absurd amount of time playing Destiny 2. 100s of hours if not thousands. I never said there was too much CONTENT (I Never said that about any game ever - lol), I said there was too much GRINDING. Grinding is just mindless repetition of the same stuff over and over. I know exactly how the whole system works. The Destiny Game Developers said you could be up to 690 light after playing a couple hours. The ENTIRE CONTEXT OF THIS POST is how it relates to getting my main character NEAR enough to the upper light limit so i could play Iron Banner (which I used to love), And have a decent shot of getting kills. I took time to collect my thoughts and give FEEDBACK because the Dev ASKED FOR IT in relation to this Iron Banner. The appropriate response is to say Thank You. I have been playing Bungie games since MARATHON (look it up). Furthermore, i set Marathon 2 up on 8 Macintosh LAN to play PVP before PVP was a WORD. D2 DID NOT FAIL BECAUSE THERE WAS NOT ENOUGH GRIND! OMG ROTFLMAO! D2 failed because Activision are complete scumbags, and Bungie’s contract with them allowed Activision to screw the game up. Go watch a history of this game on youtube or something!

Apparently - The Stupid Speed buff also includes weapons fire rates too!