Never was as odd and convoluted as some of this new crap though was it? It's not rose tinted glasses, its remembering that these new raids are ridiculous with their mechanics and not worth the time unless your team is on point. Me, I don't really care to raid when my team had a hard enough time with Leviathan. (No, I don't know why. I simply gave up on carrying them.) If Bungie wants to make the raids this hard, go ahead. We'll continue to see the numbers of engaged raiders dwindle. As long as dungeons continue to be a thing, I guess it's good enough.

Well to me that dont really seen that different, the revive mechanic makes things slighty tougher but do t think the mechanics are harder, easier in some cases. Raids should be hard though and I like the challenge.

They should be a challenge. I agree. I suppose it's just my brain's near inability to multitask that makes me not enjoy some raids. I loved Wrath, Vault, and Crota. King's Fall was always a pain point for my team. I hated the raid, but had fun when my team wasn't potatoing every encounter, so I concede that it's good too. I just need to have my one buddy find us some good teams to run with. Might help me get a new perspective.

Yup. It was good but not as good as people remember. Crucible was wayyy worse. Ice breaker and sticky spam. Enemies in nightfall were WAY beefier. And raids honestly weren’t as fun imho. Kings fall is the exception for me.

I enjoyed kings fall and wrath, I could take or leave the rest. Crota was fun for a while.