1st off, 1k should never be guaranteed. Only 1 out of 8 seals are NOT RNG, so everyone has a problem getting something to finish a seal, but you don't see people crying like you about any other seal. If you want a game that is not RNG based, go play Call of Duty or Halo or CS:GO, cause then you can have your guaranteed ways of getting every gun. The whole point of 1K and Anarchy's RNG is that they are so powerful and unique, not everybody should have them because that would ruin how unique they are.
You are what we hardcore players call a 'cry baby casual' who runs around screaming "Buff the chances to get this!" or "That gun is too powerful!" and then blame Bungie when you don't get your way and ruin the game more and more as a result. A 1/10 chance is far more than enough for a gun THAT powerful. You are someone who thinks that they are entitled to a gun, however you are not entitled to anything. Nobody is entitled to the 1K or Anarchy except World's First team who actually did something monumental: Clear the raid before anybody else.
Petra's Run should not guarantee 1K because companies would farm that for money, which is exactly what happened to Outbreak Prime in D1. Have a six man team run through the raid, stopping just before they kill the boss, then swapping out one member for a paying person so they can get the quest (or in 1K's case, the full weapon) with no effort. This would stagnate the gun in a matter of weeks.
Also, in response to your gripes with the Wall of Wishes, you don't HAVE to enter a wish. It's just a convenience for players who aren't very skilled at the raid, or who don't want to go through every encounter. Also, entering a wish does not increase your chance of getting 1K. Besides, even if the Wall of Wishes acted like you want it to, most LFG posts highlight the fact that they are at a certain encounter and need help, removing the purpose of your 'If you reach the checkpoint THEN you can put in a wish' argument, because then people will use LFG to get to the Riven checkpoint, and then use the Wall of Wishes after that (and that doesn't even mention the fact that Carry Companies will use this to sell Riven jump-in checkpoints).
RNG is among the most basic fundamentals of game making; nearly every game has RNG, and if you don't like it then stop crying or just leave the game.
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To everybody who liked and showed support: You are true Destiny players who understand what Destiny should be. To everyone who genuinely thinks that Destiny should be easier and how you should get the pinnacle weapons of the game served to you on a silver platter: Lol keep hating me. You’re all super funny. Keep the hate coming, because you keep making me laugh harder and harder :)
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Nice try, but you're a terrible troll so just... You got wrecked in the comments and can't even speak to me directly. That's the real laughing matter out of all of this.
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[quote]1st off, 1k should never be guaranteed. Only 1 out of 8 seals are NOT RNG, so everyone has a problem getting something to finish a seal, but you don't see people crying like you about any other seal. If you want a game that is not RNG based, go play Call of Duty or Halo or CS:GO, cause then you can have your guaranteed ways of getting every gun.[b] The whole point of 1K and Anarchy's RNG is that they are so powerful and unique, not everybody should have them because that would ruin how unique they are. [/b] [/quote] Hilariously ignorant comment from a "snowflake-esque" attitude. [quote]You are what we hardcore players call a 'cry baby casual' who runs around screaming "Buff the chances to get this!" or "That gun is too powerful!" and then blame Bungie when you don't get your way and ruin the game more and more as a result. A 1/10 chance is far more than enough for a gun THAT powerful. You are someone who thinks that they are entitled to a gun, however you are not entitled to anything. Nobody is entitled to the 1K or Anarchy except World's First team who actually did something monumental: Clear the raid before anybody else. [/quote] That's called player feedback and QoL balancing, something "hardcore" players seem to not understand as they piss all over everything and are the most unappreciative people in the industry. You may call people whiny cry babies, but at least they have the decency to not be self-absorbed, entitled elitists. [quote]Petra's Run should not guarantee 1K because companies would farm that for money, which is exactly what happened to Outbreak Prime in D1. Have a six man team run through the raid, stopping just before they kill the boss, then swapping out one member for a paying person so they can get the quest (or in 1K's case, the full weapon) with no effort. This would stagnate the gun in a matter of weeks.[/quote] Won't work, they spawn in dead and need to be revived. (How do you not know this?) and besides, what does it matter? There are services for everything anyway, making QoL improvements will not hinder or increase service productivity. All it would do it give regular players the opportunities they deserve. [quote]Also, in response to your gripes with the Wall of Wishes, you don't HAVE to enter a wish. It's just a convenience for players who aren't very skilled at the raid, or who don't want to go through every encounter. Also, entering a wish does not increase your chance of getting 1K. Besides, even if the Wall of Wishes acted like you want it to, most LFG posts highlight the fact that they are at a certain encounter and need help, removing the purpose of your 'If you reach the checkpoint THEN you can put in a wish' argument, because then people will use LFG to get to the Riven checkpoint, and then use the Wall of Wishes after that (and that doesn't even mention the fact that Carry Companies will use this to sell Riven jump-in checkpoints).[/quote] Fair enough. I brought up the same point, but I doubt people will actually pay for a checkpoint when friends and LFG exists. It's not even a task or service, just checkpoint exchanges. Typical requests on LFG demand more work to be involved, and those are usually free to join. You're really trying hard to sell the whole "Carry Company" schtick. It's not working. [quote]RNG is among the most basic fundamentals of game making; nearly every game has RNG, and if you don't like it then stop crying or just leave the game.[/quote] and some don't have RNG elements, your point is? Destiny is an amalgamation of various game genres. An MMO/Loot-based RPG/FPS/Puzzle Solving/Platformer hybrid.
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Amen.
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Having a title locked behind something that's completely out of you control, even though you ran the same raid three times a week? Do I really to need type a post just to point out how ridiculous that is? Come on, I know the Desticile meme has been overused in the past, but you well and truly took a bullet for Bungie on that count.
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Believe it or not, I actually don’t agree with Triumph Seals requiring RNG. They should be as skill based as possible. Not once did I say otherwise (if I did, quote when I said it and I’ll take this back). For a weapon like 1K on it’s own, the drop rate is fine. If Bungie wanted to, they could remove it from Rivensbane and hardly anybody would complain. I know I wouldn’t. But it’s essentially a pinnacle weapon, and thus should be hard to obtain.
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And yet, it [i]is[/i] a part of the triumph seal. That is what the O.P and pretty everybody else is complaining about. I don't know why you're ranting and raving about something when you agree with what their saying, unless you just glanced over the post. Another problem with your argument is that RNG is totally blind as to how you performed in the raid altogether. If I play like an idiot throughout the entire raid, i'm still eligible to get 1k, so this idea that random drops are suppose to show any kind of skill is total crap. Why do you think Ada-1 bounties are so popular right now (sans return trips)? The less rng and the more players can intentionality, the better.
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While it is a part of what she’s saying, the main point she’s bringing up is how 1K is so rare. Not once does she suggest that 1K should be taken out of the title. And yes it’s bullshit when you do so many raids and don’t get the weapon but a blueberry comes along and gets it first try, but again, it’s all RNG. You have to live with it. And let’s just say they DO make it a quest reward. Let’s go over everything that would happen, both good and bad. The good: - You get your guaranteed 1K! But so does everyone else. The bad: - Since most people now have it, the flair and hype of the weapon is dulled down dramatically, because who cares about a weapon that everybody has? Getting it will be as exciting as getting Legend of Acrius. - Now that such a powerful weapon is in the hands of most players, Bungie will have to nerf it to make other weapons seem like options to reduce power creep, or leave it as it is and let the power creep up, forcing them to make more powerful weapons that everyone will want to use, therefor increasing the power creep even more, or making those weapons harder to obtain than Outbreak Prime and 1K combined. - Carry companies are already running wild with the other pinnacle weapons and triumph seals, so if they hear that a weapon like 1K is acquirable via quest or Petra’s Run, they’ll jump on that instantly and offer people completions for money. You wouldn’t even have to step foot near the raid to get 1K then, making the weapon more common, and then the point above would happen even faster. This is why 1K needs to be obtained via RNG, so you feel that hype/relief of finally getting it, so it doesn’t feel like getting any other Exotic, so it FEELS Exotic.
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How much of a douche do you have to be to whine about other people owning a weapon that can be cheesed to obtain? You're literally complaining about the thought of a weapon being earned through merit, even though you [i]just[/i] established that is was dropping through broken mechanics. I don't give a damn if I see 1k more often. Not Forgotten isn't very common and yet that's still getting nerfed, so there clearly isn't any correlation between rarity and balance. If that were the case then why did the Mythoclast get nerfed right out of the gate back in D1? Oh, and carry companies? There are carry posts for raids already, so I don't understand how it will make any difference whatsoever. That's a problem on Bungie's part, i'm afraid. People like you are the reason why "participation medals" exist.
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Edited by TotalDramaGamer: 5/29/2019 12:32:13 AM[quote]1st off, 1k should never be guaranteed. Only 1 out of 8 seals are NOT RNG, so everyone has a problem getting something to finish a seal, but you don't see people crying like you about any other seal.[/quote] When you're already objectively wrong in the first two sentences. [spoiler]People have been raving about the difficulty getting the Lore seal (Used to be Cayde and Variks lore complaints), the Mars nodes for the Wayfarer seal (still broken AF), and the RNG on Nightfall rotation for the Cursebreaker seal since conception (when you don't have access to a nightfall for 4+ months... there's a problem)... You're just willfully ignorant. That doesn't make you right. It just makes you annoying.[/spoiler] Lol. [quote][u]so everyone has a problem[/u][/quote] You're right. A problem, not a challenge, but a problem. E-f*cking-xactly. Problems should be patched. Challenges should be overcome. Learn the difference.
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It doesn't require 5 other people to run some strikes. All the other content is pretty beatable solo so that's why you don't hear the outcry as much.
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Especially when said content isn’t even rare, challenging to get, or both. (Unless we’re talking about the Dreaming City cosmetics which then I will admit those were stupidly rare for what they were, just cosmetics and not a powerful gun).
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Pretty sure everyone remembers Gjallarhorn from D1. Anyone who knew of it's power would be happy when one finally dropped for them. A rare weapon and powerful weapon like One Thousand Voices and Year One Gjallarhorn should be hard-to-get just because of how powerful they are and the happiness they bring when they are received. Besides, luck is luck. Everyone will get one at some point. Take me, for example. I couldn't raid because I didn't own a headset. But when I finally did get one, the first thing I did was hopped into Last Wish with an LFG team. They taught me and another person how to do the raid, and we did it. My first chest gave me One Thousand Voices. My teammate (who is now a friend) also received his. Nobody was sour. We were all happy, even though 4 people didn't get it. Sometimes fortune favors you and sometimes it doesn't. Bad luck always has a stopping point. You just have to find it.
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So true man
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I gotta tell you. I was going to try and take this seriously, I really was. Then, I got to "cry-baby casual" and I stopped. One more toxic elitist POS to add to the mute list. So sorry you wasted all that time writing that essay when I'm not even going to read the rest of it. Cheers!
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What a casual participation trophy attitude.
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Keep all the sweaty elitist try-hard posts coming! I can add you all to the mute list now and save myself time and frustration later. 😋
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Lol you know ur post got picked apart so u don't want to answer if you truly belived all the crap you put you would prover ender assassin wrong but have you no you haven't you just get salty and mute people
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ignore these losers. they dont want your husband to be rewarded for completing the hardest content in the game. they just want to be one of those "i have it and dont want anyone else to have it because IM SPECIAL" i fully advocate for PR to be a 100% drop for 1k. while 5% or whatever it is for normal LW. i even guarantee you these people cant even DO petras run.
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Petra's run dosent require skill like mythic and legend comp it only requires good team work
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1 DEATH. and the entire fireteam has to restart. thats the skill thats required.
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I have 1k voices. I have a friend that did the raid roughly 40 times to get it. Welcome to destiny, if you don’t like it don’t play it. No participation trophies.
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you clearly dont understand the argument. Petras run is undeniably the Hardest thing to do in this game. wanting it to guarantee the 1k voices for beating it is not a -blam!-ing participation trophy. its called getting rewarded for your skill. by that logic how about when you hit legend in comp or complete pinnacle weapon quests its not guaranteed, it only gives a CHANCE of getting you the pinnacle? and you only get 1 chance per week otherwise would be a participation trophy. but let me guess you dont like that idea? well welcome to your thought process XD. why are you people so damn ignorant.
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I would say getting a not forgotten solo is the hardest thing to do in the game. I don’t think you understand my argument. Most titles to some extent are rng based. The complaint should be about the title requirements, not the loot drop rate. For instance I had a friend with nearly 100 clears of the Nokris strike before getting his osprey to complete a collection. Should he have gotten on it his first clear? His first solo clear? His first solo maximum difficulty modifier clear? Or should the title be tied to something else? Nothing in pve should be guaranteed to drop unless it completes or initiates a quest line.
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things should be guaranteed if its a extremely hard task like petras run or flawless raid. you have to work your ass off to do it. its a fitting reward.