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Edited by Saint-14: 5/21/2019 2:53:16 AM
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Dont introduce unbalanced (pinnacle) weapons if you'll just nerf them in the long run

Really? Goodbye lh/nf. Soon, goodbye recluse. Also, your outbreak. Damn when will the cycle end

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  • Edited by puppyk1sses: 5/26/2019 2:24:44 PM
    I don’t think Recluse is destined for a pvp nerf. If it gets one, it’ll be because of pve lol

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  • I completely disagree with your title. There's actually a well-known phrase that disagrees with it too.

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    • Destiny 3 AWW WHAT THE HELL AM I SAYING THE CYCLE IS INEVITABLE ! IT WILL NEVER END !

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      • It wasn't as obvious before, but the trend is pretty clear now, the writing is on the wall. I won't be chasing any pinnacle or hyped exotics anymore now that I know they have an expiry date.

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        • So tired of the same recycled gear that’s released and labeled new content. The sad thing is, we all know what Destiny 3 will be. More of the horrendous annual/season pass and stripping all our gear away just to reintroduce it for a 3rd time as new content. Here’s your Last Word for a 3rd time. Here’s your Thorn again.... Here’s your Ghalahorn again... here’s your Mida Tool for a 3rd time.... WotW again.... Sigh... I’d really like to see them get away from the whole concept of reintroducing old weapons and armor. If people really want this stuff, they should maybe add a Legacy tab where you can re-purchase and acquire weapons you already had in D1 and D2.... what’s the point of this reparative recycled content over and over.... Its literally taking the fun right out of the game and erasing any time spent getting the weapons in the first place. But hey, Bungie will screw Destiny 3 all up, just like they have been doing for 5 years now. I seriously don’t think they even play their own game, nor read anything in these forums. The Development team and decision makers at Bungie have no concept of what the game is or can be... It’s incredibly disheartening to see the same mistakes and poor judgment being made time and time again. You’d think Bungie would have finally learned after 5 years of continuous trial and error.... repeating the same mistakes over and over and over.... I for the life of me can’t figure out how it’s so difficult for them to take constructive criticism and use the ideals provided in there’s forums. I’ve read hundreds upon hundreds of posts and threads on here that have provided amazing ideals and new concepts that would make the game amazing. Yet, Bungie just does nothing.... and the worst thing of all, is the horrendous communication they provide or lack thereof... It’s just deafening silence week after week, month after month.... With no clear direction or concept of the game.... sigh... I digress... add this post to many thousands that go unread by Bungie....

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          • I wont be shocked if outbreak gets nerfed before the raid release. No way they let a fire team of 6 melt the boss with that thing on day 1.

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            • They're not going to do that because pinnacle weapons and weapons like Whisper and Outbreak create temporary hype and increase player numbers for a short time. So they put out OP things to do that and then nerf them months down the road when the hype has died down. Stringing players along with OP gear is what Bungie has done for years.

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              • It's called bait and switch. Spider approves.

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              • Look man, Lunas and NF needed to be knocked off their pedestals. I mean seriously, these hand cannons were able to out gun an lmg, that's not right. They were broken beyond belief making crucible even more stale than it already was. Recluse will be fine because you need a kill to active it's perk. Maybe bungie will learn from this and not make the pinnacle weapons over powered.

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              • Wild speculation sure is fun. Luna / NF deserved a nerf, and I say that as someone who has it.

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              • I liked it when the idea of “pinnacle” was ornaments for both PvE and PvP. When I saw a player with full Trials ornaments, I respected his skill, not when he/she uses overpowered weapons. The same goes for raids. I liked wearing ornamented armor to express my “skill.” That’s just me.

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                • Edited by Odin: 5/22/2019 1:50:28 PM
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                  Step 1, make a weapon kind of OP Step 2, watch them chase it Step 3, wait until they get attached to it, nerf it and use the excuse it was OP Step 4, watch them complain about it on the forum Step 5, explain why even if it's the same reasons we have used a few times going on 5 years Step 6, tell them we are listening to them as usual but ignore them for a long time so we don't have to deal with the backlash and they will adapt to it. Step 7, repeat the process step 1 through 6. It works like a charm. Or, the sandbox after going on ( 5 years ) can actually learn to buff certain weapons or create weapons that can compete. [b](It's ridiculous as developers to make weapons each season or anytime that are "OP" then use the excuse that they are "OP" to nerf them.)[/b] It's childish-period. Umm, hello Bungie! You are the ones that literally created these weapons so how the hell could you not know they are "OP" when it comes to your watered down mechanics?

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                  • Edited by SanctifiedN7: 5/23/2019 4:55:24 PM
                    Catering to the lowest demographic. Americans should be used to -blam!- minorities, crying wolf. #Victimhood

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                  • Edited by Izzy: 5/21/2019 4:25:19 AM
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                    The nerf cycle has existed since Destiny 1, but Bungie always introduced a New Meta after nerfing the previos 1 & the cycle just keeps rolling The reason people are so scared this time around is cause nothing new has been announced or Revealed yet, but it'll be kind of hard to convince people to grind for the New meta knowing it will eventually get nerfed just like all the others

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                    • Bungie needs players to get outbreak perfected. They need players to love the heck out of it, get the catalyst so you can love it more, and then buy the ornament for revenue, then, it will get nerfed.

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                    • It's the song that never ends. Shiny new exotic / pinnacle weapon --> people chase it, get it, use it, like it --> too many people like it because 80% of the other stuff is just trash --> bungie makes up some lame excuse and nerfs it into the ground 2 weeks before another new shiny toy comes out. Rinse and Repeat This song never ends because people keep playing the same song and dance.

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                    • Bungie has some MAJOR philosophy/game identity/ creative vision problems to solve. The problem is that they are so busy fighting among themselves, and reacting to short term problems that they leave these foundatiional issues unaddressed. I'm mean seriously. How you justify bringing Black Hammer and MIDA multi-tool back to the game...only to nerf them in the exact same ways you did the LAST time is just mind-boggling bad. Where you wrong the FIRST time you nerfed them....or where you wrong when you brought them back in their pre-nerfed form? Did you fail to learn from the mistake of creating them in the first place? Or did you fail to learn from the mistake of nerfing them the first time?

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                      • Edited by LuxZenRa: 5/23/2019 2:31:47 AM
                        I find it odd that they want to make it a challenge experience for us but when it comes to them doing challenging work they say it is just too hard....Every boss standing still and just stomping is lazy.....we pay the price with a nerf to Whisper of the worm(and every other exotic for the raid) and it will essentially make it a legendary sniper in an exotic slot....bungie should show by example.

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                        • Edited by BigPoopah: 5/22/2019 2:50:04 PM
                          They should’ve never created them to begin with. They couldn’t figure out any other way to attract PvP players to comp than by creating an unbalanced weapon that they could then take and use against unskilled players for easy kills. Nerfing them after the fact is bad, players worked hard to get them (well, NF at least). The fact that they existed in the first place is even worse. Create a fun game mode to play, not loot designed to stomp average players out of PvP. Make Comp better, not with loot, but as a game mode in general. THAT is when more people will play it, and they will continue playing it instead of getting loot and bailing.

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                          • [quote]Really? Goodbye lh/nf. Soon, goodbye recluse. Also, your outbreak. Damn when will the cycle end[/quote] Right they shouldn't introduce unbalanced weapons. They need to learn to properly design the weapons to fit within a power curve to keep from having large nerfs all the time.

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                          • I don’t give a rats azzz about any new weapon armor , or anything else They put out, you grind and grind for a nerf. But that’s what they want how many hours you put in a day. Mindless unrewarding grind fest. Screw you and your nerfed out game.

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                          • WotW has the exact issue. Bungie KNEW it was too OP for their sandbox, but they released it into the game anyway. They did the same thing in D1 with the exact same gun, if it was too OP back then, why the hell did they think it wasn't too OP this time? Answer is that they knew, and always planned to nerf it in the future so that they could boost player numbers, and they'll keep doing this with exotics and pinnacle weapons. Make them so good that everyone wants them and will grind for them, and then when everyone has chased the fun for a while, they nerf it...

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                            • Outbreak isn't a Pinnacle Weapon and Recluse wont get nerfed.

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                              • is not Just pinnacle weapons but also exotic weapons as well as Armor, nothing is safe in this game😵

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                              • How else will they get people to grind trash content? Nobody is grinding for average rewards

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                              • Im not going to lie its annoying but no amount of early game test has any developer prepared for the later tuning required, every game has to do it due to community backlash and unexpected results. Siege, Division, Pubg, Overwatch ( yes i know its dead). They all have unexpected results and have to release nerfs after release.

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