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Edited by ItsGundie: 5/17/2019 9:37:59 AM
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Suggestions for Supers and Whisper reworks.

Okay, everyone is now salty about Bungie's decision to make Whisper a legendary-like sniper. But the problem that was stated by them is still there. So, instead of just ranting its better to make suggestions, right? Okay, first of - Whisper. I can understand why Bungie want to nerf this gun and the likes of it. Calus, Riven are memes at this point. Most of fireteams dont even know how to do Riven the intended way. The problem with this point, if you want to change our meta - killing just few guns and supers is stupid. Change the entire meta like you did with Forsaken. Whats the point of tether, if it cant generate orb anymore? This was the only reason people used void hunter in PVE, for support. But, nevermind. I know that such changes are almost impossible, as it will require a real long dialogue between community and dev team (or just some serious planning for dev team). So, here are my current suggestions about recent nerfs and stuff. 1) Whisper. This gun is good. Its meant to be end game reward designed for endgame content. And it serves this role perfectly, as it cant do all the content, or requires some real skill for this. (Example - Kalli). If in Bungie's opinion this weapon kills the heavy ammo economy, why not just move it into another slot? We already have Polaris Lance that also have infinity ammo (Btw its bugged af). Making Whisper of the Worm to be a kinetic/ energy weapon with slight damage reduction will still leave this gun in good position (and even open new possibilities for raids like SOTP where there is alot of snipers everywhere), not change the way it feels at all and still it will not generate infinity heavy ammo, opening the possibility to make SOTP and other raids in few phases. BUT by doing so Bungie really need to look at heavy slot more. Why? Well, what do we have here actually? 1k voices, tractor cannon, Thunderlord, etc. These are all exotics. The only legendarys that people are actually using are machine guns and granade launchers (pvp mostly). Thats all. And even more, look at other slots. We have pretty good shotguns and weapons like Recluse that DO NOT take our exotic slot. Thats why its rare to actually see people using non-heavy exotic weapons. Because we dont have good legendarys that can stay on the same level as Exotics. Why there is no Heavy Fusions anymore? Snipers? Where is variety? I personally hate using grenade launchers and rockets, i want to do crits and kill. But Linears DO NOT feel powerfull in PVE. Thats why the only legendary heavy that i use is always the machine gun. Pls, i beg you, give as more heavy weapons so we can actually have things that we can use. ---------------------------------- 2) Supers. Infinity Nova? Fun Infinity Blades? Fun Infinity Tether? Required. Once again, i can understand why you would want to change our supers. But just blindly nerfing few exotics is not the solution. Like really, who tf will ever use Tether if it doesn't generate orbs? It was designed to support teams, and thats exactly what it was doing. Why would you kill it? If you really want to get rid of Mayhem in your game (which IMO is not cool - Galanor Shards, Nova were always super fun to me. And you still can always fuc up the whole mechanics by even simply missing) you have to look at your supers again. No, actually. You have to do it anyway. Supers in Destiny meant to be something special, OP. But right now... Its so fuced up. Look at this: Warlocks: •Arc - all supers are OK. •Void - slow Nova. Other supers are useless in PVE. •Solar - mid. Always mid. Everything else is for PVP. Warlocks are in great position right now. They have an amazing support super, great DPS super, cool ad clearing supers. ---------------------------------- Hunters: •Arc - all trees are basically the same. Nice choice for add clearing tho. •Void - Tether with pants. Everything else is useless. •Solar - mid tree was fun with Galanor, and still have some use. Bottom tree is still amazing for PVE damage and top tree is cool for PVP. Hunters are still in good position. They have great support super (that requires exotic armor tho) that can help anywhere, they have a lot of damage and still can do ad control with Blade barrage and any tree Arc Stuff. ---------------------------------- Titans. Oh boi. Arc - good ad control. Mid tree is kinda useless. Void - ah, its ok mb? Solar - top tree only. Always. Titans are in a VERY bad position as for now. They dont have good support super (mid tree Void is the best they have, but how often do you see that?), they dont have DPS super at all (mid Arc is just a joke). All their supers are designed to kill ads and for PvP. Nothing more. I started D2 as Titan main, but after Forsaken i barely touched him. I dont even unlocked all new super nodes, as it just dont worth it. ---------------------------------- I know that originally the design choice was to make each class unique. And that still can be achieved, but you bring it to the point where Titans are completely useless in SOTP. They cant contribute anything to the team as a class. So, mb try to make classes more similar? Give each class a way to deal tons of damage, kill ads, support the team, give us good pvp supers. Thats all. ---------------------------------- Also, regarding infinity Supers. Why you should not take them away? Simply put, you yourself stated that some encounters are designed around these supers. Will you change how Reckoning, Shuro Chi work? Well, that is, IMO, not cool. Games are made for fun. And spamming supers? Its fun! Blade Barrage, Nova bomb spam is just fun, everyone will say so. And if you look at it from the point of balance.. There is no problem. Reckoning, for example, can still be pain even with Novas. There are really only few specific situations where you can spam your super anyway. And last thing about supers. DO NOT TOUCH Tether. This supers is meant to support the team. Without the ability to generate infinity orbs for the whole team this Super is complety dead. ---------------------------------- Regarding other things. Pls, fix HCs on console already. And dont nerf Luna. Luna is amazing in PVE as for now and with your change you will just kill it. If other HC will be easier to use on console popularity of 180 will go down. Even things like Last Word and Ace can become meta. Also, do smth about Sleeper. With your new nerf it doest feel that exotic anymore.

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