[quote]If it doesn't already. I'm not a Titan main but it makes a perfect sense to me for this interaction to work. Ward of Dawn taking hits should charge your super when wearing Ursa's[/quote]
Do you realize how overpowered that would be for PvP?
In PVE that sounds amazing though.
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Overpowered if people are dumb enough to shoot it. Supers can destroy the bubble, AND kill the titan inside. Killing a Titan with ursa, right after they take that damage, will cancel the recharge.
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[quote]Overpowered if people are dumb enough to shoot it. Supers can destroy the bubble, AND kill the titan inside. Killing a Titan with ursa, right after they take that damage, will cancel the recharge.[/quote] It won't happen. We both know I'm right. Done with hypothetical stuff. Gg
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Do you realize how stupid you’d look for shooting a bubble? I’m not saying you as I you but you as in the idiot who continues to shoot the bubble.
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Got to be some genius to pointlessly shoot at a bubble.
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Edited by Skred675: 4/28/2019 5:35:58 AM[quote]Got to be some genius to pointlessly shoot at a bubble.[/quote] 99% of the player base are "some genius" and will shoot. I'll also trick your ass into doing it. One of many easy techniques is a simple exotic swap. Run OEM the whole game. Your all pissed and mentally conditioned to run when marked. When I have a full super, I'll switch to Ursas, take a death to make sure they work, have multiple supers, and it works EVERY TIME even high pretty high level comp. That's ONE way. I have others. You'll shoot, I virtually guarantee you.
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I learned in D1 to ignore bubble Titans. In the right places they were deadly. Like a sniper staying in one spot and not moving, they're easy to deal with.
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*Taunts in Bubble*
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although irritating.....I still ignore them. lol
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What dumbass is actually shooting the bubble?
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Boo hoo
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Good... LET it be op
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How on earth would that be overpowered for PvP?
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Edited by UnclRuckus99: 4/27/2019 3:24:23 PMIf they remotely make the bubble useful again... running 2or3 on a squad can be op as fck.. but until they bring blessings back.. it's useless
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Edited by Ashen Phoenix: 4/28/2019 12:09:39 PMThere is already Blessings of Light in D2, it's called Starless Night. Place a bubble while wearing your Helm of Saint 14 and you'll see ;) Tbh i actually like it more this way because you can now get Armor and Blessing at the same time, it's just that other abilities and exotics are far more useful. All we need now on Titan is weapons of light but, what i miss the most from D1 Titan is the perk on force barrier melee which allowed you to make orbs on every melee kill while overshield was active and the iron harvest perk which made orbs on heavy weapon kills.
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Edited by UnclRuckus99: 4/28/2019 2:16:35 PMI hear you, but that's an intrinsic perk to Helm... just blinds people. I mean you can still use it, but it's nothing like it use to be. The bubble isn't as strong as it was. I use to run this faithfully in PvP and and a few Raids... especially in Kings Fall. Ward of Dawn doesn't seem like it lasts at long, Armor or Weapons of light provided benefits if you ran two bubble Titans... now it seems weaker although both perks ate supposed to be active. Which is why ppl use the shield, blocking with that cam drop more orbs and more dps for your team... just seems like they cut the ball's off the shield. Just had more usefulness imo. I've seen people use it now to camp a zone, but it's inconsistent. In D1, ppl thought twice about a contesting a bubble.. now it's an obstacle and less of a deterrent. Just wouldn't mind it being buffed a little.. since nerfing seems to be so common.
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Yeah it's definitely a lot weaker than what it used to be in D1, Bungie has always had something against Titans being the "best," class in the game, they want Warlocks to be that. I was very salty when D2 first came out and found out that weapons and blessings had been given to Warlocks in form of rifts. Tbh even after all that Titan is still the best imo, we might have lost what we used to have in D1 but, use the right exotics and the new perks in the subclasses are amazing. The only thing a titan lacks is a strong single shot super like GG or Nova.
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[quote]If they remotely make the bubble useful again... running 2or3 on a squad can be op as fck.. but until they bring blessings back.. it's useless[/quote] Maybe, but the subclass is still arguably the best in Destiny if used correctly. Super versatile. If buffed it be super OP and nerfed super fast. Totally pointless.
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Edited by Skred675: 4/28/2019 3:16:22 AM[quote]How on earth would that be overpowered for PvP?[/quote] Well let me just explain Ursas in current state and I think you'll get it. Ursa recharges super energy ( another super) on damage received to the sheild. It functions basically like the Orpheus rigs or the Skull of dire ahamkara, but it's activated on damaged received. In PVP if I pop my shield and walk into a team of 6 guess what's probably going to happen? I'm going to walk straight into that crowd and just hold my shield up and let them DPS me for about a solid 5 to 6 seconds as a team. I will be able to tank everything they throw at me... trust me. Do a simple shield throw will kill two-three of them and then bashes kill the rest of them. Then I'll have a full super AGAIN instantly. Currently it's harder to pull off then I just made it sound, but that is how it works. It requires some ability in planning, setup, skill....all that. Planting a bubble in the same manner wouldn't really require that much planning or skill or ability and it would be even worse than what I just described. Furthermore, with something like Ursa on a bubble that kind of negates bubbles main counter, which is Nova bomb and similar shutdown Supers. For example. currently if I hold up my shield with Ursa and get a Nova bomb into my sheild, it's basically going to give me my super back and I'm going to kill the Nova Warlock. So imagine a bubble that you walk up to as a warlock and you Nova bomb it it doesn't go down and gives the Titans super back and you get murdered I'm a Titan main and no thank you I know how to run bubble and shut it down. I'm a Titan main and know this class well. I often have to educate randoms on misconceptions and bs around the community about nuances of Titan. Here is a very old video of me shutting one down without a super in D1 as a Warlock. Only reason I could do what I did was that's a Titan main Warlock you're seeing. https://youtu.be/J4jU_3uN6aE
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Edited by Ashen Phoenix: 4/28/2019 12:43:54 PMI'm a Titan main too since D1 Alpha, infact i'm rarely off my Titan even tho i have the other 2 at 700. This will definitely be OP in PVE but not in PVP. Yes you can tank a Nova Bomb while blocking with a Sentinel super and then kill the Warlock too but, you can do that without Ursa's too, Ursa just makes it so that you get your super back, it doesn't increase the tankiness of the block itself. Whereas the bubble is easily taken out by a top tree nova bomb no matter what exotic you're wearing so, why is it that you think, while wearing Ursa the bubble will tank all of the Nova Bomb's damage and still stay up? Maybe you meant that Ursa, apart from granting super energy back, would also buff the bubble's tankiness, in that case that's asking for 2 buffs and not just one. Simply no one in their right minds sits as a team and shoots at a bubble with guns to take it down, if they do that they're asking to be killed. And as for supers that 1 shot it, they 1 shot it regardless, while roaming supers, they don't actually focus on damaging the bubble itself, instead they just get inside and kill the Titan (unless you're smart and already had a suppressor grenade ready to throw when they get in). Not to mention the way Ursa's work is, they only convert blocked damage to super energy once the super runs out, if the super is broken or the Titan is killed, no super energy is refunded. This is definitely a cool idea tho and hopefully Bungie makes a new Titan exotic in the future specifically for this but, it would have to function slightly different than Ursa's.
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Edited by Skred675: 4/28/2019 3:31:37 PM[quote]I'm a Titan main too since D1 Alpha, infact i'm rarely off my Titan even tho i have the other 2 at 700. This will definitely be OP in PVE but not in PVP. Yes you can tank a Nova Bomb while blocking with a Sentinel super and then kill the Warlock too but, you can do that without Ursa's too, Ursa just makes it so that you get your super back, it doesn't increase the tankiness of the block itself. Whereas the bubble is easily taken out by a top tree nova bomb no matter what exotic you're wearing so, why is it that you think, while wearing Ursa the bubble will tank all of the Nova Bomb's damage and still stay up? Maybe you meant that Ursa, apart from granting super energy back, would also buff the bubble's tankiness, in that case that's asking for 2 buffs and not just one. Simply no one in their right minds sits as a team and shoots at a bubble with guns to take it down, if they do that they're asking to be killed. And as for supers that 1 shot it, they 1 shot it regardless, while roaming supers, they don't actually focus on damaging the bubble itself, instead they just get inside and kill the Titan (unless you're smart and already had a suppressor grenade ready to throw when they get in). Not to mention the way Ursa's work is, they only convert blocked damage to super energy once the super runs out, if the super is broken or the Titan is killed, no super energy is refunded. This is definitely a cool idea tho and hopefully Bungie makes a new Titan exotic in the future specifically for this but, it would have to function slightly different than Ursa's.[/quote] Your assumption is based on the false premise that a Titan will always be in his bubble.😘 Think outside the box, or the bubble in this case.
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Edited by Ashen Phoenix: 4/29/2019 12:28:47 AMI thought we were talking about Ursa's potential ability to work with bubble lol. Thinking outside the box or being clever with your bubble usage is an entirely different topic and doesn't have anything to do with Ursa's limitations as far as being effective for a bubble is concerned ;) Like i said Ursa doesn't have to be the exotic that returns super energy for a bubble (and let's be frank here the buff you want isn't ever gonna happen). Bubble should have it's own new exotic that refunds energy, something that does it better than what you're saying. p.s don't get me wrong, i love Sentinel as much as you do, top tree with synthoceps is what i run all the damn time xD.
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It wouldn't be as OP if it recharged like Shards of Galanor. Throws nova at bubble Destroys bubble and enemies inside. Super can't recharge because they are dead.
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>place a bubble in a 1v6 >other team sits patiently, not shooting >you realize peeking is your only option >peek >instaded how is this OP?
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[quote]>place a bubble in a 1v6 >other team sits patiently, not shooting >you realize peeking is your only option >peek >instaded how is this OP?[/quote] Peeking isn't your only option. Very one dimensional thinking, no offense.
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give me other viable options then